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> It's not clear that there are sufficient accessible deposits of lithium and other raw materials to meet the demands of electrification of everything via lithi
by Robotbeat 4y ago
> It's not clear that there are sufficient accessible deposits of lithium and other raw materials to meet the demands of electrification of everything via lithium batteries
Yes, it is clear. It’s one of the most abundant elements in the earth’s crust and is common in brines. Can also be extracted from seawater for less than current market spot prices.
- jazzyjackson 4y agodeposits in the earth != production capacity if the increase in demand outpaces the increase in supply, you'll see a price squeeze, regardless of how much salt remains in the oceans if someone goes and outlaws internal combustion engines, for instance, you may see demand increase quicker than supply can catch up
- Robotbeat 4y agoClearly, but that’s a short term constraint, not a medium to long term constraint. The short term constraints on hydrogen are way worse, and hydrogen already has massive industrial demand that is being met virtually entirely by fossil hydrogen. If green hydrogen production was a slam dunk and we just needed storage, etc, then we’d already been using massive amounts of green hydrogen industrially instead of, like, 1%. (Note that in the US, 41% of electricity is clean.)
- spookie 4y agoOh please, lithium "mining" might sound great, but there's a lot more to car batteries than lithium. Cobalt, which is essential for the longevity of a battery, is mostly mined by "artisinal miners" (2/3 of world's production). You know, poor people handling toxic substances to separate ores, and probably being paid less than this post cost to make. Not only that, most deposits are in geopolitically unstable regions / being explored by authoritarian regimes.