I'm as generally skeptical as anyone, but I think you've seen that it's essentially impossible to rationally debate with someone who believes in a conspiracy to

I'm as generally skeptical as anyone, but I think you've seen that it's essentially impossible to rationally debate with someone who believes in a conspiracy to the point that evidence against it can just be dismissed as part of the conspiracy itself. It's frustrating. I certainly wouldn't trust my life to an unaudited VPN, but I think your two main points are pretty compelling -- 1) the business model is of large VPN companies is based on trust. They have very explicit, business interest in not violating that trust. 2) in one case we know of, when seized, the servers didn't have actionable information on them. Does that mean every VPN company is trustworthy? Of course not. Does it mean that things could change at any time? Of course.