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That's YOUR experience, but that certainly doesn't translate over to an appt dweller who doesn't have their own garage to charge their BEV with. You better bel

That's YOUR experience, but that certainly doesn't translate over to an appt dweller who doesn't have their own garage to charge their BEV with. You better believe they WILL sit for a dang good bit of time waiting for their vehicle to charge.

andjd 4y ago
That's a fair critique. It's certainly easiest for homeowners with a grange to do EVs. Eventually, market forces will make apartment owners who offer parking to also offer EV charging, but I think it would be reasonable for government regulations to require them to install chargers for renters who request it. Policy solutions are harder for neighborhoods where residents rely on on-street parking, as the municipality would probably have to install and maintain a lot of level 2 chargers, but this would still be worth doing. In the mean time, if you're in this situation, I personally wouldn't fault you for getting a gas-powered car. EVs are still more constrained by supply than demand.
vel0city 4y ago
The majority of Americans live in single family homes. The majority of Americans can charge an EV at home.
- p_l 4y ago
  Americans with single family homes aren't the only market in USA. USA is not the only country in the world. Other countries can have wildly different situation and setup, and in fact building home charging stations might be problematic for significant portion of future buyers that Toyota might want to grab. P.S. A bit under 30% of worldwide Toyota production goes into USA - that still leaves a huge chunk of sales that might have wildly different needs to cater to.
  - vel0city 4y ago
    A slight majority of Europeans live in single family homes as well. It's not like single family homes are something that only exist in America and the entire rest of the car buying world is "wildly different". I realize not every car buyer can have their own charger at home, that's obvious. But let's not act like it's a rare thing for people to have the ability to charge at home. Over half of all households in Europe and US can probably add home charging for little cost. That's a ton of EVs to sell, an absolutely massive market able to be addressed now.
tomtheelder 4y ago
That was me up until recently! Infrastructure is good enough where I live that I can charge the car most times I go out for errands. I was able to make enough of my trips ones where I came home with more charge than I left with. Consequence was basically no waiting around, except on road trips. It was great! I charge at home now, which I'll happily admit is more convenient.

andjd 4y ago

That's a fair critique. It's certainly easiest for homeowners with a grange to do EVs. Eventually, market forces will make apartment owners who offer parking to also offer EV charging, but I think it would be reasonable for government regulations to require them to install chargers for renters who request it. Policy solutions are harder for neighborhoods where residents rely on on-street parking, as the municipality would probably have to install and maintain a lot of level 2 chargers, but this would still be worth doing. In the mean time, if you're in this situation, I personally wouldn't fault you for getting a gas-powered car. EVs are still more constrained by supply than demand.

vel0city 4y ago

The majority of Americans live in single family homes. The majority of Americans can charge an EV at home.

p_l 4y ago
Americans with single family homes aren't the only market in USA. USA is not the only country in the world. Other countries can have wildly different situation and setup, and in fact building home charging stations might be problematic for significant portion of future buyers that Toyota might want to grab. P.S. A bit under 30% of worldwide Toyota production goes into USA - that still leaves a huge chunk of sales that might have wildly different needs to cater to.
- vel0city 4y ago
  A slight majority of Europeans live in single family homes as well. It's not like single family homes are something that only exist in America and the entire rest of the car buying world is "wildly different". I realize not every car buyer can have their own charger at home, that's obvious. But let's not act like it's a rare thing for people to have the ability to charge at home. Over half of all households in Europe and US can probably add home charging for little cost. That's a ton of EVs to sell, an absolutely massive market able to be addressed now.

tomtheelder 4y ago

That was me up until recently! Infrastructure is good enough where I live that I can charge the car most times I go out for errands. I was able to make enough of my trips ones where I came home with more charge than I left with. Consequence was basically no waiting around, except on road trips. It was great! I charge at home now, which I'll happily admit is more convenient.