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What are or should be the consequences of these worries of yours?

Pigalowda 4y ago
The worry is that it will take many generations of significant investment back into the Dalit communities to bring them into parity with the rest of the Indian population. That even after the investment the longterm epigenetic effects from thousands of years of high intergenerational stress will show a significant increase in diseases of all types with higher all cause mortality/lower life expectancy.
- dundarious 4y ago
  Lifestyle factors drastically dominate when it comes to mortality/life expectancy. Also, the whole idea is highly speculative and would/should have no implications for workplace/hiring practices regardless.
  - Pigalowda 4y ago
    Yes it is true that with improvement in maternal/fetal survivability modifiable lifestyle factors drastically dominate life expectancy. However that's a throw away line to disregard significant differences. It's basically zooming out far enough to say it doesn't matter. And yes, its a speculative idea that I proposed, I certainly didn't suggest it was dogma. However this kind of observation is what would lead to a study. Lastly, while this discussion is tangential to Google hiring practices, it is a related topic. I'm sorry if you feel like I robbed you of your time.
    - dundarious 4y ago
      It’s not “a throw away line to disregard significant differences” when I say that almost all the genetic factors you’re concerned about are subordinate to lifestyle factors — they are. Genetic factors can be governed (genes switched on/off) via lifestyle factors such as diet, activity, etc. Never mind that whole populations have endured famines, passing on harmful traits epigenetically, and yet, those populations have recovered well. I don’t think you’re wasting my or anyone else’s time, but I think your post was missing crucial info, especially given the context. If there was a post about career achievement or discrimination of Finnish people, I wouldn’t post about their unfavorable epigenetic profile since the famines of WW2, lest it be construed as partial justification.

The worry is that it will take many generations of significant investment back into the Dalit communities to bring them into parity with the rest of the Indian population. That even after the investment the longterm epigenetic effects from thousands of years of high intergenerational stress will show a significant increase in diseases of all types with higher all cause mortality/lower life expectancy.

dundarious 4y ago
Lifestyle factors drastically dominate when it comes to mortality/life expectancy. Also, the whole idea is highly speculative and would/should have no implications for workplace/hiring practices regardless.
- Pigalowda 4y ago
  Yes it is true that with improvement in maternal/fetal survivability modifiable lifestyle factors drastically dominate life expectancy. However that's a throw away line to disregard significant differences. It's basically zooming out far enough to say it doesn't matter. And yes, its a speculative idea that I proposed, I certainly didn't suggest it was dogma. However this kind of observation is what would lead to a study. Lastly, while this discussion is tangential to Google hiring practices, it is a related topic. I'm sorry if you feel like I robbed you of your time.
  - dundarious 4y ago
    It’s not “a throw away line to disregard significant differences” when I say that almost all the genetic factors you’re concerned about are subordinate to lifestyle factors — they are. Genetic factors can be governed (genes switched on/off) via lifestyle factors such as diet, activity, etc. Never mind that whole populations have endured famines, passing on harmful traits epigenetically, and yet, those populations have recovered well. I don’t think you’re wasting my or anyone else’s time, but I think your post was missing crucial info, especially given the context. If there was a post about career achievement or discrimination of Finnish people, I wouldn’t post about their unfavorable epigenetic profile since the famines of WW2, lest it be construed as partial justification.