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If you want a decent sized paid VPN service, you are basically choosing between Nord and Kape now. Pepsi and Coca cola.
by cloutchaser 4y ago
If you want a decent sized paid VPN service, you are basically choosing between Nord and Kape now.
Pepsi and Coca cola.
- WaxProlix 4y agoMullvad?
- cloutchaser 4y ago"decent sized" Lots of small coke companies exist too, to use my analogy again.
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 4y agoMullvad is not small.
- jchw 4y agoTrue that. IIRC Mullvad was literally the world’s largest Wireguard deployment until Cloudflare did Warp. Just because people haven’t heard of it doesn’t mean it’s small. They just don’t advertise on shitty podcasts, so it doesn’t have the same brand recognition.
- scoopertrooper 4y agoWould you accept RC Cola? - A loyal Mullvad customer
- junon 4y agoIf mullvad is RC Cola then I'll switch immediately. Love that stuff.
- throwaway92394 4y agoMullvad isn't small, and I'm not sure how Nord specifically compares, but its probaubly worth noting they mostly use 100TB, Tzulo, Quadranet, M247, and 31173. They use a bunch of others but not much. Mullvad for obvious reasons is used for less... wonderful usecases. It's not uncommon for websites to block you due to abuse from that exit. ASN blocking is rather common with mullvad too though that's less avoidable. I have less info on Nord, although I can see it has about 4x the ip's. No idea if they are more diverse network wise. Their accepted payment methods suck though.
- ThatMedicIsASpy 4y agoI saw NordVPN ads in German TV. At this point I would say they invest all of their money into marketing - my reason for never ever buying their product. I haven't had any issues in terms of blocking on mullvad but my sample size is small since I don't change the servers that often.
- throwaway92394 4y agoYeah my impression is they're all marketing and care relatively little about privacy. How you can claim to care about privacy but still require an email is beyond me.
- 9935c101ab17a66 4y agoWhy does size matter? Mullvad is fast, has quite a few locations/endpoints, and good service.
- arosier 4y agoProton VPN - 70M+ signups across our products. Fairly decent size at this point.(disclaimer I work for Proton)
- xeromal 4y agoWhat are the thoughts on PIA? I've used them for years without issue, but I'm sure they're harvesting my data. lol
- BlueTankEngine 4y agoPIA has proven in court multiple times that they don't log. Everyone in this post worrying about Kape is probably not using their vpns for anything illegal in their jurisdiction, and are just obsessed with "privacy"
- poppytaker 4y agoHas PIA proven in court not to log subsequent to being purchased?
- mehlmao 4y agoThey're owned by Kape. I switched to Proton once my 3-year plan ended.