> every thread on this topic turns into a flame war with a bunch of people crying racism/religionism Isn't that the first step in the flame war, attacking, dis

> every thread on this topic turns into a flame war with a bunch of people crying racism/religionism Isn't that the first step in the flame war, attacking, dismissing, and blaming one side (and before they even say something)? How will someone with a good faith interest in discussing concerns about racism or religionism act, seeing this comment - they will feel shut down, and like they won't be heard and will be attacked. There's already no room for those discussions. There is a lack of trust - a situation that is the goal of people trying to disrupt open societies and the trolls that help them. Whatever we say or do, the primary goal needs to be to build trust. People who are alarmed act badly - that's why trolls try to alarm people (even if they aren't quite conscious of how it works). Even when people are acting badly, if you can build their trust then very often the situation will improve. It would be extremely valuable to society to find a way to conduct constructive conversations; I think we are improving, but not nearly quickly enough.