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Since when does '-phobia' mean 'hatred'? If I suffer from arachnophobia, do I hate spiders?

by HKH2 4y ago

PhillyG 4y ago
"Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." Edit: It might be a quote from fiction but there's some truth in there somewhere
- HKH2 4y ago
  Fear can lead to aggression, but it doesn't have to; you can be avoidant.
olddustytrail 4y ago
Since always. It's an extreme dislike ( the opposite of "philia"). "Revulsion" might be a better translation than fear or hatred.
- HKH2 4y ago
  > Since always. Is was used like that in Greek? Even the clinical meaning today does not include hatred. > "Revulsion" might be a better translation than fear or hatred. Fear does not require disgust. I am scared of snakes but I think they are beautiful animals.
  - ZeroGravitas 4y ago
    I don't think fears are phobias though? If someone said there's a poisonous snake behind you, then it's not a phobia to move away. Like many psychological things the line is more "when your response is damaging to yourself and others". I knew someone with a phobia of stickers on fruit. Just tried to Google what that is called and found this comment from a sufferer: "I can't have them on my skin and if anyone put one on me without prior warning I would panic and scream. I HATE HATE HATE ones on fruit"
kergonath 4y ago
Yeah, it's mostly fear. I blame my lack of coffee at the time and my non-English mother tongue :) Though the line between fear and hate is quite thin and blurry in human psychology. The arachnophobes I know do, in fact, hate spiders with a passion.
- HKH2 4y ago
  I was making a comment about the trend in general. Some native speakers also agree with your definition. > Though the line between fear and hate is quite thin and blurry in human psychology. In some instances it may be, although the word 'awe' has no sense of hatred in it. > The arachnophobes I know do, in fact, hate spiders with a passion. Okay, well how about snakes? I'm afraid of them but I don't think anybody is disgusted by them.
  - ZeroGravitas 4y ago
    > although the word 'awe' has no sense of hatred in it. Awful has some meanings that are close https://www.etymonline.com/word/awful https://www.etymonline.com/word/awful
    - HKH2 4y ago
      'awesome' does not.

Since when does '-phobia' mean 'hatred'? If I suffer from arachnophobia, do I hate spiders?

by HKH2 4y ago

Since when does '-phobia' mean 'hatred'? If I suffer from arachnophobia, do I hate spiders?

"Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." Edit: It might be a quote from fiction but there's some truth in there somewhere

HKH2 4y ago
Fear can lead to aggression, but it doesn't have to; you can be avoidant.

olddustytrail 4y ago

Since always. It's an extreme dislike ( the opposite of "philia"). "Revulsion" might be a better translation than fear or hatred.

HKH2 4y ago
> Since always. Is was used like that in Greek? Even the clinical meaning today does not include hatred. > "Revulsion" might be a better translation than fear or hatred. Fear does not require disgust. I am scared of snakes but I think they are beautiful animals.
- ZeroGravitas 4y ago
  I don't think fears are phobias though? If someone said there's a poisonous snake behind you, then it's not a phobia to move away. Like many psychological things the line is more "when your response is damaging to yourself and others". I knew someone with a phobia of stickers on fruit. Just tried to Google what that is called and found this comment from a sufferer: "I can't have them on my skin and if anyone put one on me without prior warning I would panic and scream. I HATE HATE HATE ones on fruit"

kergonath 4y ago

Yeah, it's mostly fear. I blame my lack of coffee at the time and my non-English mother tongue :) Though the line between fear and hate is quite thin and blurry in human psychology. The arachnophobes I know do, in fact, hate spiders with a passion.

HKH2 4y ago
I was making a comment about the trend in general. Some native speakers also agree with your definition. > Though the line between fear and hate is quite thin and blurry in human psychology. In some instances it may be, although the word 'awe' has no sense of hatred in it. > The arachnophobes I know do, in fact, hate spiders with a passion. Okay, well how about snakes? I'm afraid of them but I don't think anybody is disgusted by them.
- ZeroGravitas 4y ago
  > although the word 'awe' has no sense of hatred in it. Awful has some meanings that are close https://www.etymonline.com/word/awful https://www.etymonline.com/word/awful
  - HKH2 4y ago
    'awesome' does not.