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In Europe, you can always reliably find a massive amount of racism against the Romani people (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people https://en.wikipedia.o

by izacus 4y ago

In Europe, you can always reliably find a massive amount of racism against the Romani people (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people).

farmerstan 4y ago
- baisq 4y ago
  - monetus 4y ago
    (From the us) I went to school with a Hungarian who couldn't understand why we were confused about his jokes - they were based around body building so that his arms could become "gypsy killers". He was such a nice guy, it seemed really discordant. This is an anecdote of the kind of cultural exchange we have.
    - the_only_law 4y ago
      I knew a similar guy, but he was Spanish and his catchphrase was “Moor killer” which was just really odd to me, given the Reconquista ended a very long time ago, but he says a lot of terms/cultural aspects still exist from then.
  - tokai 4y ago
    That's literally how racism against Afro Americans is often excused towards Euros.
    - baisq 4y ago
      Yes, I was going to add to that comment that Europeans can't understand the treatment of blacks in America either.
- ajsnigrutin 4y ago
  Yep... I live in a country with two large-ish gypsy areas, and we have a lot of people who are very loud about their rights and discrimination against them... ...somehow none of those people actually live anywhere near them. There really is discrimination against them, but on the other hand, the system (police, courts, politics) allows them to do all the shitty stuff they're stereotyped by.
TrackerFF 4y ago
Not to be confused with the Romanian people - i.e, people from Romania. (Though some of the Roma people can obviously also be Romanians!). EDIT: I absolutely condone discrimination, but I think for the people that live in areas with very visible Roma people, it's kind of obvious why. At best, you'll just see them begging on the streets. At worst, you'll experience getting hounded down by them, getting robbed, or your property looted. Mostly just an issue in larger cities, and it used to be much worse 10 years ago. We had this one older Roma guy that would have his usual spot, and he'd sit there and beg all day long. Rain, snow, or wind - he'd always sit there. In the end, he became a fixture in the city scenery. But one particular winter got really bad, and some senior citizen offered him their apartment (rent-free) for a couple of months, as they were away for the winter. He passed away a couple of years later.
- tzs 4y ago
  > I absolutely condone discrimination Did you mean condemn? condemn: express complete disapproval of condone: approve or sanction (something), especially with reluctance
  - TrackerFF 4y ago
    I stand corrected - meant condemn.
the_only_law 4y ago
It’s very blunt and to the point as well, no beating around the bush or wriggling around to try to make yourself look less bad for it like in America.
- izacus 4y ago
  I'm fascinated how such comments actually showed up here down the thread. ^^
jeromegv 4y ago
Of course your message was followed with people accusing the whole culture of robbing people. It's quite interesting how if you switched any other culture this would be downvoted to hell, but the moment we talk of Romani people, the most strong worded racist comments are just accepted. I guess we still have work to do.
- no_time 4y ago
  It's the pattern seeking part of your brain doing it's thing. Negating it with virtue signalling won't make it go away. Go to police.hu and every time you see someone with the family name Balogh | Góman | Lakatos, you drink. I guarantee you will be dead from alcohol poisioning in an hour or two.
throwaway71271 4y ago
the roma i know just want to live in a different way, they dont really want to participate in the system we have built. they live by another set of rules and values https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_society_and_culture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_society_and_culture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kris_(Romani_court) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kris_(Romani_court)

by izacus 4y ago

In Europe, you can always reliably find a massive amount of racism against the Romani people (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people).

farmerstan 4y ago

baisq 4y ago
- monetus 4y ago
  (From the us) I went to school with a Hungarian who couldn't understand why we were confused about his jokes - they were based around body building so that his arms could become "gypsy killers". He was such a nice guy, it seemed really discordant. This is an anecdote of the kind of cultural exchange we have.
  - the_only_law 4y ago
    I knew a similar guy, but he was Spanish and his catchphrase was “Moor killer” which was just really odd to me, given the Reconquista ended a very long time ago, but he says a lot of terms/cultural aspects still exist from then.
- tokai 4y ago
  That's literally how racism against Afro Americans is often excused towards Euros.
  - baisq 4y ago
    Yes, I was going to add to that comment that Europeans can't understand the treatment of blacks in America either.
ajsnigrutin 4y ago
Yep... I live in a country with two large-ish gypsy areas, and we have a lot of people who are very loud about their rights and discrimination against them... ...somehow none of those people actually live anywhere near them. There really is discrimination against them, but on the other hand, the system (police, courts, politics) allows them to do all the shitty stuff they're stereotyped by.

TrackerFF 4y ago

Not to be confused with the Romanian people - i.e, people from Romania. (Though some of the Roma people can obviously also be Romanians!). EDIT: I absolutely condone discrimination, but I think for the people that live in areas with very visible Roma people, it's kind of obvious why. At best, you'll just see them begging on the streets. At worst, you'll experience getting hounded down by them, getting robbed, or your property looted. Mostly just an issue in larger cities, and it used to be much worse 10 years ago. We had this one older Roma guy that would have his usual spot, and he'd sit there and beg all day long. Rain, snow, or wind - he'd always sit there. In the end, he became a fixture in the city scenery. But one particular winter got really bad, and some senior citizen offered him their apartment (rent-free) for a couple of months, as they were away for the winter. He passed away a couple of years later.

tzs 4y ago
> I absolutely condone discrimination Did you mean condemn? condemn: express complete disapproval of condone: approve or sanction (something), especially with reluctance
- TrackerFF 4y ago
  I stand corrected - meant condemn.

the_only_law 4y ago

It’s very blunt and to the point as well, no beating around the bush or wriggling around to try to make yourself look less bad for it like in America.

izacus 4y ago
I'm fascinated how such comments actually showed up here down the thread. ^^

jeromegv 4y ago

Of course your message was followed with people accusing the whole culture of robbing people. It's quite interesting how if you switched any other culture this would be downvoted to hell, but the moment we talk of Romani people, the most strong worded racist comments are just accepted. I guess we still have work to do.

no_time 4y ago
It's the pattern seeking part of your brain doing it's thing. Negating it with virtue signalling won't make it go away. Go to police.hu and every time you see someone with the family name Balogh | Góman | Lakatos, you drink. I guarantee you will be dead from alcohol poisioning in an hour or two.

throwaway71271 4y ago

the roma i know just want to live in a different way, they dont really want to participate in the system we have built. they live by another set of rules and values https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_society_and_culture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_society_and_culture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kris_(Romani_court) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kris_(Romani_court)