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That’s just not true. London is huge talent magnet and salaries/TC at top tech companies are about 75-80% of Bay Area and comparable to Zurich. London is also f

That’s just not true. London is huge talent magnet and salaries/TC at top tech companies are about 75-80% of Bay Area and comparable to Zurich. London is also fun place to live compared to cultural wasteland of bay area. 3k visa fee is frankly irrelevant when you consider full cost of moving.

asdadsdad 4y ago
that's ok, but then you have 2 years of visa and have to find something else to stay.
908B64B197 4y ago
> London is huge talent magnet and salaries/TC at top tech companies are about 75-80% of Bay Area and comparable to Zurich Citation needed. I've seen London attract Europeans but a lot more people are trying to jump from London to the Bay Area than the opposite. > compared to cultural wasteland of bay area. Ironically, there are two prominent Bay Area schools listed in the special interest list from the UK government. [0] [0] https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/high-potential-individual-visa-global-universities-list/high-potential-individual-visa-global-universities-list-2021 https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/high-potential-in...
- dfadsadsf 4y ago
  Big tech offices in London are chock full of Americans - especially at staff/sr manager and above level Both Stanford and Berkley are isolated from areas they are located in and you have to be student to enjoy cultural life inside. You may visit art gallery/museum in Stanford (it's nice!) but that's pretty much it.
mmarq 4y ago
A good senior developer makes 70-90K in London (which is not even close to 80% of Bay Area), a place where a 2-bed flat cost 2K a month and nursery cost 1.5-2K. A junior dev making 50K in Berlin or Munich or Hamburg is much richer, let alone what’s going on in Zurich or Silicon Valley. Italians and Spaniards are better off going to Germany or the Netherlands. Besides, London has a cultural life that’s not comparable to Paris, Rome or Berlin or even Hamburg (try to get a pint or a coffee at 2AM) and it’s hell if you are not wealthy (try to explain what a section 21 eviction is to a French or a German).
- dfadsadsf 4y ago
  You have to compare apple to apple - eg Google/FB salary in Bay Area vs Google/FB salary in London. Skills of average engineer in Bay Area (due to magnet status of the area attracting best and brightest) is significantly above skills of average engineer in pretty much any other location and comp reflects it. For Google/FB difference in comp by location is there but not as dramatic as difference in average salary for all engineers per location may suggest. To enjoy social life in Paris, Rome, Berlin or Hamburg you need to speak local language (otherwise you just meet the same expats) which is not problem in London as everyone speaks English.

asdadsdad 4y ago

that's ok, but then you have 2 years of visa and have to find something else to stay.

908B64B197 4y ago

> London is huge talent magnet and salaries/TC at top tech companies are about 75-80% of Bay Area and comparable to Zurich Citation needed. I've seen London attract Europeans but a lot more people are trying to jump from London to the Bay Area than the opposite. > compared to cultural wasteland of bay area. Ironically, there are two prominent Bay Area schools listed in the special interest list from the UK government. [0] [0] https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/high-potential-individual-visa-global-universities-list/high-potential-individual-visa-global-universities-list-2021 https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/high-potential-in...

dfadsadsf 4y ago
Big tech offices in London are chock full of Americans - especially at staff/sr manager and above level Both Stanford and Berkley are isolated from areas they are located in and you have to be student to enjoy cultural life inside. You may visit art gallery/museum in Stanford (it's nice!) but that's pretty much it.

mmarq 4y ago

A good senior developer makes 70-90K in London (which is not even close to 80% of Bay Area), a place where a 2-bed flat cost 2K a month and nursery cost 1.5-2K. A junior dev making 50K in Berlin or Munich or Hamburg is much richer, let alone what’s going on in Zurich or Silicon Valley. Italians and Spaniards are better off going to Germany or the Netherlands. Besides, London has a cultural life that’s not comparable to Paris, Rome or Berlin or even Hamburg (try to get a pint or a coffee at 2AM) and it’s hell if you are not wealthy (try to explain what a section 21 eviction is to a French or a German).

dfadsadsf 4y ago
You have to compare apple to apple - eg Google/FB salary in Bay Area vs Google/FB salary in London. Skills of average engineer in Bay Area (due to magnet status of the area attracting best and brightest) is significantly above skills of average engineer in pretty much any other location and comp reflects it. For Google/FB difference in comp by location is there but not as dramatic as difference in average salary for all engineers per location may suggest. To enjoy social life in Paris, Rome, Berlin or Hamburg you need to speak local language (otherwise you just meet the same expats) which is not problem in London as everyone speaks English.