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Well, are you sure about that? The whole market manipulation he does with stocks and crypto is not ‘fraudulent intentions’? Sure, he might not be frauding with
by tluyben2 4y ago
Well, are you sure about that? The whole market manipulation he does with stocks and crypto is not ‘fraudulent intentions’? Sure, he might not be frauding with his products, but I would think it is fraudulent. Did he not actually pay a securities fraud fine a few years ago? And he just keeps doing it; he makes more from the rise and fall than he will ever pay in fines. It is smart but they are fraudulent intentions. We don’t really know how many corners were cut (or how deep) in other places; if they didn’t succeed we would have known about them probably, but things are easily forgotten when there is success.
- bayesian_horse 4y agoThe point being that there is a lot of success coming out of Elon Musk's ambitions and none so far out of the originally discussed pharmaceutical enterprise.
- tluyben2 4y agoSure, got your point. However, you said he has no fraudulent intentions. I think he does and that it is one of the pillars for his success; manipulate to get more money, use that money to fund ideas (and get others to co-fund which is easier if you pony up too). He just doesn't get caught too much. I agree he is not just a 'luck' guy; he work(ed)(s) hard, is very persistent & pushes boundaries; he also knows how to manipulate the world successfully to pursue his goals, like Jobs & Gates & others before him. However, as far as we know, they weren't walking such a fine line close to fraud (although Gates was of course somewhat close to the illegal line with his anti-competitive actions in the EEE times).