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Interesting idea, though maybe a bit convoluted. Also Uğur Şahin immigrated to Germany at the age of 4 and was educated there. Calling him a "Turkish doctor" is

• HWR_14 4y ago
  I won't want to get into the accuracy of calling Uğur Şahin Turkish, but for a period of time the "COVID vaccine was developed in Germany by Turkish immigrants" was a really popular talking point, especially in relation to some political arguments that took place in English speaking countries.
  • bayesian_horse 4y ago
    If somebody says "Turkish doctor" I somehow assume he means a doctor who grew up and educated in Turkey. I don't argue with people who identify as Turkish or German. I don't know if Sahin identifies as either or both. I know that it is harder for Turkish immigrants to get a good education in Germany, especially during the time he grew up in. I also don't care much about the debate of how useful immigrants are, because the result may very well be that they aren't on average that useful and that quite a large portion of criminals are immigrants. Usefulness or consequence to society should not matter for the rights of an individual. And immigration control always comes down to violating someones rights in order to somehow get rid of them if they are unwanted for some reason.