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Holy crap, Netflix pay a lot. And here I am with 60k EU salary !

by sydthrowaway 4y ago

Claude_Shannon 4y ago
Meanwhile in Poland 20k euro monthly would be an wondrous salary QQ
- silisili 4y ago
  20k euro monthly is a wondrous salary in the US, also. A few companies are outliers, but the average programmer makes quite a bit less than that figure.
  - Claude_Shannon 4y ago
    Damnit, I meant per year - arghhhh XD
- mcntsh 4y ago
  I think they mean 60k a year, not month.
take_it_not 4y ago
I’m wondering what’s the cost of living in where you live? monthly rent, grocery and also gas price etc? also housing price
- danieldisu 4y ago
  You would be surprised that it may not be that different than some parts of the US (excluding NYC and SF)
- mcntsh 4y ago
  I can chime in about Berlin. Your average Senior SWE will make 3,900 euro after tax, a decent 1br apartment might be 1,200. You can save around 1,500/mo after expenses if you don't go crazy.
  - jowdones 4y ago
    Cluj, Romania, senior developer, €3,300 after tax. Nice 1 bedroom apartment rent/mortgage + expenses is €400 per month. So a bit ahead the Berlin guy after living expenses. Salaries in Europe are shit compared to US and I've zero incentive to move to Western Europe for the average wage I'd be making there.
- raffraffraff 4y ago
  Varies wildly, and it's down to pure luck sometimes. I know two couples that live 200m from each other, and earn about the same. They're the best example of luck /life choices that I know of. Couple 1: bought their house in 2011, have no kids and no car (because they live in a walkable city). So they overpaid their mortgage every month and paid it off. They are piling up savings and putting a lot into their pension funds. They could probably retire by the time they're 50. Couple 2: bought their house in 2008, so it's overpriced and small. They only bought it to get onto the property ladder "before it's too late". They had kids around 2013. So they need 2x cars (because kids) and had to buy a larger home (2x mortgages, because home 1 was still in negative equity). The rental income from their first home is heavily taxed. Honestly, I can't see how they're ever going to retire. Their 2nd mortgage will be with them until they are both around 70 years old. Hopefully their first home will appreciate in value and they can sell it. If not, it'll provide some income (rent) or a place to boot the kids out to when they hit their 20s.

Holy crap, Netflix pay a lot. And here I am with 60k EU salary !

Claude_Shannon 4y ago

Meanwhile in Poland 20k euro monthly would be an wondrous salary QQ

silisili 4y ago
20k euro monthly is a wondrous salary in the US, also. A few companies are outliers, but the average programmer makes quite a bit less than that figure.
- Claude_Shannon 4y ago
  Damnit, I meant per year - arghhhh XD
mcntsh 4y ago
I think they mean 60k a year, not month.

take_it_not 4y ago

I’m wondering what’s the cost of living in where you live? monthly rent, grocery and also gas price etc? also housing price

danieldisu 4y ago
You would be surprised that it may not be that different than some parts of the US (excluding NYC and SF)
mcntsh 4y ago
I can chime in about Berlin. Your average Senior SWE will make 3,900 euro after tax, a decent 1br apartment might be 1,200. You can save around 1,500/mo after expenses if you don't go crazy.
- jowdones 4y ago
  Cluj, Romania, senior developer, €3,300 after tax. Nice 1 bedroom apartment rent/mortgage + expenses is €400 per month. So a bit ahead the Berlin guy after living expenses. Salaries in Europe are shit compared to US and I've zero incentive to move to Western Europe for the average wage I'd be making there.
raffraffraff 4y ago
Varies wildly, and it's down to pure luck sometimes. I know two couples that live 200m from each other, and earn about the same. They're the best example of luck /life choices that I know of. Couple 1: bought their house in 2011, have no kids and no car (because they live in a walkable city). So they overpaid their mortgage every month and paid it off. They are piling up savings and putting a lot into their pension funds. They could probably retire by the time they're 50. Couple 2: bought their house in 2008, so it's overpriced and small. They only bought it to get onto the property ladder "before it's too late". They had kids around 2013. So they need 2x cars (because kids) and had to buy a larger home (2x mortgages, because home 1 was still in negative equity). The rental income from their first home is heavily taxed. Honestly, I can't see how they're ever going to retire. Their 2nd mortgage will be with them until they are both around 70 years old. Hopefully their first home will appreciate in value and they can sell it. If not, it'll provide some income (rent) or a place to boot the kids out to when they hit their 20s.