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> DevOps is the idea that there shouldn't be separate "dev" and "ops" organizations, I agree with this definition of DevOps. However the vast, vast, vaaaast ma
by jghn 4y ago
> DevOps is the idea that there shouldn't be separate "dev" and "ops" organizations,
I agree with this definition of DevOps. However the vast, vast, vaaaast majority of real life uses of the term "DevOps" I've seen are just rebranded sysadmins. Sometimes it at least implies a more engineering approach to their coding. But in these institutions the Devs and Ops are very much separate groups of people, unfortunately.
- thewileyone 4y agoAgreed. The DevOps that I'm familiar with is two job descriptions in one job, one headcount, one pay.
- 0xBDB 4y agoI agree. I think the grandparent is maybe describing an ideal state, but in practice most "DevOps" and "SRE" positions I see go by on job boards are for either sysadmins who can do some automation and infrastructure as code, or possibly devs who know how cloud infrastructure and networking work, depending on your perspective. If you're lucky the hiring manager might have at least read the Phoenix Project or the Google SRE books.