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Orion – New WebKit Browser

65 points by vimy 4y ago

mdaniel 4y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31584791 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31584791 seems to have more traffic
- dang 4y ago
  Ok, we'll move the comments thither and re-up that thread. Thanks!
  - beefman 4y ago
    These are not the same article. I don't care at all about Kagi, but I care very much about Orion. Except I only know this from the other Orion article (the one now marked "dupe"), which shows that it has native tree-style tabs.
    - pvg 4y ago
      They are effectively the same story, the dupes go by story sameyness rather than article identity.
      - beefman 4y ago
        Right. That's the policy that's bad.
        pvg 4y ago
        You can try to come up with a better one but one based on identity runs up against the constraint of there being only 30 spots on the front page and the site's charter of interestingness.
        beefman 4y ago
        The better policy is simple: the dupe system should only be used for identical articles. There is no harm in allowing two threads about the "same story" to ride out the front page nor is there any reason to combine their comments. Though unforeseen consequences of this suggested policy are possible I think they're unlikely and I don't believe anyone can reliably predict them without trying it. As dang likes to point out, internet discourse is mostly stateless. Combining duplicates that aren't really duplicates does nothing to improve this situation.
        pvg 4y ago
        There is no harm Two (or what your suggestion implies, N) nearly identical interesting things on the front page is less interesting than two different interesting things on the front page. This is, in fact, a problem that afflicted HN more or less right off the bat as it does any crowdsourced link aggregator - Erlang days, etc. It is, as you say, entirely predictable and crushes interestingness.
dang 4y ago
Ongoing thread: Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31584791 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31584791 - June 2022 (19 comments) Related: My next main browser: a review of Orion - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30610651 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30610651 - March 2022 (149 comments) Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28799049 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28799049 - Oct 2021 (184 comments)
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vessel 4y ago
It's for Mac only.

65 points by vimy 4y ago

mdaniel 4y ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31584791 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31584791 seems to have more traffic

dang 4y ago
Ok, we'll move the comments thither and re-up that thread. Thanks!
- beefman 4y ago
  These are not the same article. I don't care at all about Kagi, but I care very much about Orion. Except I only know this from the other Orion article (the one now marked "dupe"), which shows that it has native tree-style tabs.
  - pvg 4y ago
    They are effectively the same story, the dupes go by story sameyness rather than article identity.
    - beefman 4y ago
      Right. That's the policy that's bad.
      - pvg 4y ago
        You can try to come up with a better one but one based on identity runs up against the constraint of there being only 30 spots on the front page and the site's charter of interestingness.
        beefman 4y ago
        The better policy is simple: the dupe system should only be used for identical articles. There is no harm in allowing two threads about the "same story" to ride out the front page nor is there any reason to combine their comments. Though unforeseen consequences of this suggested policy are possible I think they're unlikely and I don't believe anyone can reliably predict them without trying it. As dang likes to point out, internet discourse is mostly stateless. Combining duplicates that aren't really duplicates does nothing to improve this situation.
        pvg 4y ago
        There is no harm Two (or what your suggestion implies, N) nearly identical interesting things on the front page is less interesting than two different interesting things on the front page. This is, in fact, a problem that afflicted HN more or less right off the bat as it does any crowdsourced link aggregator - Erlang days, etc. It is, as you say, entirely predictable and crushes interestingness.

dang 4y ago

Ongoing thread: Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31584791 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31584791 - June 2022 (19 comments) Related: My next main browser: a review of Orion - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30610651 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30610651 - March 2022 (149 comments) Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28799049 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28799049 - Oct 2021 (184 comments)

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vessel 4y ago

It's for Mac only.