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> ... was always doomed for failure You could also say that "they won" and there's no where to go but down now. Nothing can grow forever and things that try a

> ... was always doomed for failure You could also say that "they won" and there's no where to go but down now. Nothing can grow forever and things that try are known, in the biological domain, as cancers or infestations. There's quite a few corporations that "won" their market, so they're primed for a decline-- if you can still even call it that after enough people made more money than god and retired.

xtracto 4y ago
I feel that social networks are best done in an descentralized way: Like IRC, and Usenet on its own time. There should be no "winner" or local entity that tries to milk profits out of it. Because exactly as you said: Facebook "won" the social network game several years ago: Everybody was in there. From there the only thing it could do to try to milk more profits was to bring it down. Instead, we've got IRC or Usenet that, years and years after their "peak", they are still going well and good. Gone are the "ethernal septembers" and most of spam. And the protocol and networks (that matter for the people using it) are still in there.
skinnymuch 4y ago
Facebook having such a bad rep across the board of people did not help at all. Like why is FB not doing any major enterprise initiative or cloud computing? Especially now with their stock dropping, having another $100B in value would help a lot. They haven’t monetized Messenger or WhatsApp much either. Maybe they can’t or it won’t ever be enough. Less than billions in profit won’t help much. Which does make them having won and are now going down seem more correct.
- crispyambulance 4y ago
  > Like why is FB not doing any major enterprise initiative or cloud computing... They "sort-of" did. The Open Compute Project (https://www.opencompute.org/ https://www.opencompute.org/) is an effort in which Facebook played a major role. The motivation, for them, is to break free of the shackles put on them by computing and networking equipment vendors (like Cisco). Facebook is big enough that they could design their own stuff, and try to make it a commodity which, as a side-effect, allows others to get involved and benefit from as well. It's hard to say how well this has worked but it was "an initiative".

xtracto 4y ago

I feel that social networks are best done in an descentralized way: Like IRC, and Usenet on its own time. There should be no "winner" or local entity that tries to milk profits out of it. Because exactly as you said: Facebook "won" the social network game several years ago: Everybody was in there. From there the only thing it could do to try to milk more profits was to bring it down. Instead, we've got IRC or Usenet that, years and years after their "peak", they are still going well and good. Gone are the "ethernal septembers" and most of spam. And the protocol and networks (that matter for the people using it) are still in there.

skinnymuch 4y ago

Facebook having such a bad rep across the board of people did not help at all. Like why is FB not doing any major enterprise initiative or cloud computing? Especially now with their stock dropping, having another $100B in value would help a lot. They haven’t monetized Messenger or WhatsApp much either. Maybe they can’t or it won’t ever be enough. Less than billions in profit won’t help much. Which does make them having won and are now going down seem more correct.

crispyambulance 4y ago
> Like why is FB not doing any major enterprise initiative or cloud computing... They "sort-of" did. The Open Compute Project (https://www.opencompute.org/ https://www.opencompute.org/) is an effort in which Facebook played a major role. The motivation, for them, is to break free of the shackles put on them by computing and networking equipment vendors (like Cisco). Facebook is big enough that they could design their own stuff, and try to make it a commodity which, as a side-effect, allows others to get involved and benefit from as well. It's hard to say how well this has worked but it was "an initiative".