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That's not true. I come from a family of farmers since centuries, in Southern Europe. I am the owner of several large plots of land and I helped my family when
by zxspectrum1982 4y ago
That's not true.
I come from a family of farmers since centuries, in Southern Europe. I am the owner of several large plots of land and I helped my family when I was a kid.
Growing food in greenhouses makes food cheaper than growing food outside greenhouses. Problem is quality. E. g. a tomato grown in a greenhouse does not taste as good as a tomato grown outside. In fact, the greenhouse tomato hardly has any taste.
Another problem is organic, eco-friendliness and all of those "luxuries of the first world": when growing in greenhouse, you'll have to use pesticides and all of those things that improve yield and keep plagues at bay. But then you are no longer ecological so some markets (e. g. Germany) close for you.
Also, this whole thing about "peak agricultural land". Bullshit. Really. There's plenty of unused agricultural land. The main problem with agriculture as of today is prices of sold goods vs cost of production, and that's only because of globalization, cheap transport and cheap labor in third-world countries (Africa, South America). E. g. where I grew up, there were big extensions of almond trees. Yet already 30 years ago, it was cheaper to bring almonds from California than grow our own almonds here! That crop is almost gone now, except for people (like me) who still have some almond trees for our own consumption (not to sell).
And the actual problem will happen in a few years, one or two decades at most: most of the sons and daughters of farmers went to university or vocational school, and now they have other jobs. Not farming. What will happen if globalization reverses (like it seems to be doing since COVID-19 started)? or if transport costs so much that growing locally starts to make economical sense again? We will have lost that knowledge and skills about agriculture. My only hope is I am seeing a few of my school and university mates, who studied Economic Science, Psychology, Electric Engineering, Civil Engineering, etc and became so fed up with those jobs, that they went back to agriculture (and they are making money because they have an analytical mind and they know what to grow, when and who to sell to, and first thing they do is they have a "business plan" for their lands and crops). Something like what happened in electronics.
- bryanlarsen 4y agoWhat would be the cost of something like wheat grown in a greenhouse? The costs would be a lot more than a 10X increase.
- zxspectrum1982 4y agoAs a rule of thumb, you don't do extensive agriculture in a greenhouse. You don't need to because as I said, there is plenty of land available. However, it is definitely possible and there are many studies on that since at least 20 years. The 2 big cons are: - Energy costs (artificial lightning) - Harvesting is a lot more difficult (at least with the current technology) Wheat yield potential in controlled-environment vertical farms https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2002655117 https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2002655117 Wheat May Be Grown Indoors, But The Cost… Potential yield in vertical farming could be up to 600 times greater per hectare than current farming methods: Study https://krishi.outlookindia.com/story/wheat-may-be-grown-indoors-but-the-cost/381382 https://krishi.outlookindia.com/story/wheat-may-be-grown-ind... BTW, one more thing I forgot in my earlier comment about why agriculture has been mostly abandoned in Western countries: phytosanitary products (e. g. pesticides). Many phytosanitary products that are no longer (or were never) allowed in the US, Canada, Europe, etc are perfectly legal in Africa, South America, Asia, etc so their yield is a lot higher, thus again contributing to smaller production cost.