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I have the app and it's surprisingly useful, mostly because Tim Hortons can have pretty long, slow lines. I'll usually place my order when I'm a few minutes awa

I have the app and it's surprisingly useful, mostly because Tim Hortons can have pretty long, slow lines. I'll usually place my order when I'm a few minutes away so that I can simply grab my order and walk out. It can also be helpful if you show up and there's a long lineup. Mobile orders get pushed to the front of the line, so instead of waiting in line you can place a mobile order and go grab it right away. I feel a bit guilty doing that though.

interestica 4y ago
>guilty Do we need... App neutrality laws? Ha
gnabgib 4y ago
It isn't really an app though, it's one of those half arsed SPA in an webview that CONSTANTLY updates the large JS payload whenever you open it. Agree about the line bypass feature.. Tims can be insanely slow at rush hours. They also switched Roll Up the rim to REQUIRE the app if you want to roll (2? 3 years ago?) - I hope a successful lawsuit comes out of that given this privacy ruling.. a lot of people were forced to install the app just so they could collect an occasional free coffee/doughnut. If they did that last minute at the counter they wouldn't even have read the permissions (a similar argument to that which renders many EULA invalid in Canada).
- Teever 4y ago
  > a lot of people were forced to install the app just so they could collect an occasional free coffee/doughnut. They weren't forced. No one held a gun to their head. They willingly traded their privacy for a donut.
  - stanmancan 4y ago
    There's nothing "willing" about it; the vast majority of users have no clue what private information these apps are hoarding.
elevaet 4y ago
> Mobile orders get pushed to the front of the line, so instead of waiting in line you can place a mobile order and go grab it right away. Interesting, so customers pay for queue priority with their location data. Except the problem is it's not a fully consentual agreement, customers aren't explicitly aware of the arrangement. My apathetic side says we're entering a world where it's so inconvenient to have privacy that we'll probably not bother.
- frosted-flakes 4y ago
  Location data is not required to use the app. You can just select No at the permissions prompt. For me, the only options are "Allow only while using the app", "Ask every time", and "Don't allow". Background tracking isn't even an option.
  - stanmancan 4y ago
    It's always weird though on iOS; many times I've selected "Only while using the app" and then a day or two later I get a pop up that "{app} has used your location data 53 times in the last 24 hours" which never makes sense considering I never opened the app.
    - ccouzens 4y ago
      Is the prompt about the app requesting your permission using the API designed for that? And is the counter about the app making background data requests? Any network request can be used to infer permissions from your IP address? That IP addresses can be mapped to physical locations is unfortunate but usually the precision is bad (eg enough to know what town you're in, but not where in the town)
leviathan 4y ago
My anecdote is that once I was traveling on the 401 and stopped at an ONroute to grab a coffee. The line was extremely long and not moving at all, I had time to download the app, register, place an order, see it print out at the register and someone took it an made my coffee before the line even moved. I just quit the line, moved to the empty section where the mobile orders are and picked up the coffee as I was deleting the app.

interestica 4y ago

>guilty Do we need... App neutrality laws? Ha

gnabgib 4y ago

It isn't really an app though, it's one of those half arsed SPA in an webview that CONSTANTLY updates the large JS payload whenever you open it. Agree about the line bypass feature.. Tims can be insanely slow at rush hours. They also switched Roll Up the rim to REQUIRE the app if you want to roll (2? 3 years ago?) - I hope a successful lawsuit comes out of that given this privacy ruling.. a lot of people were forced to install the app just so they could collect an occasional free coffee/doughnut. If they did that last minute at the counter they wouldn't even have read the permissions (a similar argument to that which renders many EULA invalid in Canada).

Teever 4y ago
> a lot of people were forced to install the app just so they could collect an occasional free coffee/doughnut. They weren't forced. No one held a gun to their head. They willingly traded their privacy for a donut.
- stanmancan 4y ago
  There's nothing "willing" about it; the vast majority of users have no clue what private information these apps are hoarding.

elevaet 4y ago

> Mobile orders get pushed to the front of the line, so instead of waiting in line you can place a mobile order and go grab it right away. Interesting, so customers pay for queue priority with their location data. Except the problem is it's not a fully consentual agreement, customers aren't explicitly aware of the arrangement. My apathetic side says we're entering a world where it's so inconvenient to have privacy that we'll probably not bother.

frosted-flakes 4y ago
Location data is not required to use the app. You can just select No at the permissions prompt. For me, the only options are "Allow only while using the app", "Ask every time", and "Don't allow". Background tracking isn't even an option.
- stanmancan 4y ago
  It's always weird though on iOS; many times I've selected "Only while using the app" and then a day or two later I get a pop up that "{app} has used your location data 53 times in the last 24 hours" which never makes sense considering I never opened the app.
  - ccouzens 4y ago
    Is the prompt about the app requesting your permission using the API designed for that? And is the counter about the app making background data requests? Any network request can be used to infer permissions from your IP address? That IP addresses can be mapped to physical locations is unfortunate but usually the precision is bad (eg enough to know what town you're in, but not where in the town)

leviathan 4y ago

My anecdote is that once I was traveling on the 401 and stopped at an ONroute to grab a coffee. The line was extremely long and not moving at all, I had time to download the app, register, place an order, see it print out at the register and someone took it an made my coffee before the line even moved. I just quit the line, moved to the empty section where the mobile orders are and picked up the coffee as I was deleting the app.