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I'm surprised to see Elon explicitly admitting that he and his executives at Tesla have no way to measure the productivity of workers other than counting how ma

I'm surprised to see Elon explicitly admitting that he and his executives at Tesla have no way to measure the productivity of workers other than counting how many hours they are at the Tesla office. To be clear, I'm not surprised that this is the case, but I'm surprised that he would voluntarily admit it. He obviously thinks it's a sick burn, but it's a pretty big self-own even for an Elon tweet.

mikkergp 4y ago
One weird problem with not having empathy as a leader is you think everyone works the same way you do. It's bizarre to me that you couldn't see that some people might be more productive working from home. I liked going into the office. I liked my teammates, I liked some of the social aspects. But between 90 minute lunches, coffee breaks, people constantly talking in the office. I was lucky to work 4 hours a day. How you could think that butts in seats is going to work better for everyone is bizarre to me. But maybe everyone just pretends to be working while he's around and he doesn't see the waste.
neuronic 4y ago
First, define productivity for each role. After trying to do so, most companies could probably fire 1/5 of their work force without repercussions.
- olddustytrail 4y ago
  You can't just fire the entire C-level without any repercussions.
- tshaddox 4y ago
  Perhaps that's true, but still, it's weird to say "we don't have any way of measuring productivity based on output, so our approach is to require people to physically be in the office 40+ hours per week so that we can at least fire people who literally don't show up enough." In fact, I would call that "pretending to manage a company" more than I would call remote work "pretending to work."
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nickm12 4y ago
Yup, had exactly the same thought. Valuing an employee by how many hours they were "visibly present" was shockingly unaware.

mikkergp 4y ago

One weird problem with not having empathy as a leader is you think everyone works the same way you do. It's bizarre to me that you couldn't see that some people might be more productive working from home. I liked going into the office. I liked my teammates, I liked some of the social aspects. But between 90 minute lunches, coffee breaks, people constantly talking in the office. I was lucky to work 4 hours a day. How you could think that butts in seats is going to work better for everyone is bizarre to me. But maybe everyone just pretends to be working while he's around and he doesn't see the waste.

neuronic 4y ago

First, define productivity for each role. After trying to do so, most companies could probably fire 1/5 of their work force without repercussions.

olddustytrail 4y ago
You can't just fire the entire C-level without any repercussions.
tshaddox 4y ago
Perhaps that's true, but still, it's weird to say "we don't have any way of measuring productivity based on output, so our approach is to require people to physically be in the office 40+ hours per week so that we can at least fire people who literally don't show up enough." In fact, I would call that "pretending to manage a company" more than I would call remote work "pretending to work."
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nickm12 4y ago

Yup, had exactly the same thought. Valuing an employee by how many hours they were "visibly present" was shockingly unaware.