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> If you've got the skills that are in demand you can always quit and go work somewhere else where remote is still an option. You could say this about any shit
by mjr00 4y ago
> If you've got the skills that are in demand you can always quit and go work somewhere else where remote is still an option.
You could say this about any shitty part of tech work though. Software devs won't be put on 24/7 on-call rotations because they can just quit and work somewhere else. Software devs won't be forced to put together a quick hack because they can just quit and work somewhere else. Software devs won't be forced to work nights and weekends to meet an arbitrary deadline because they can just quit and work somewhere else.
For whatever reason, it doesn't end up being that simple.
- jrockway 4y agoThe cost of switching is pretty high. Interviews, background checks, filling out your W4, coming up to speed on a new team with new processes, etc. It ain't free or 0 stress. To get around the interviews, I think this is why some people always have interview processes going on in the background, even if they're not looking for a job. Then when they want to rage quit to make a point, they can easily land on their feet. (It is annoying when you interview people that don't accept your offer, but what can you do.) A lot of what makes people want to leave companies is the simple nature of working with other people in a for-profit enterprise. That is not going to change by moving to another for-profit enterprise. So those people probably feel pretty stuck regardless of how good the market is.
- swader999 4y agoThat was 2010 thinking, in the twenties, you have 2-3 FTE jobs going at once and drop the worst one periodically as you bring on additional employers.
- zrail 4y agoI still don't understand how people find time to do this. The overhead from switching all the time would kill my productivity and take a bunch of time away from what I actually want to be doing, which is not working.
- isbvhodnvemrwvn 4y agoThe point is not to be productive, the point is to shamelessly do the bare minimum you need to in order to get more money.
- zrail 4y agoRight, sure. Just as there's no ethics in capitalism I don't think there's any room for shame in capitalism either. Personally, when I was consulting I really wanted to want multiple clients at once but I actually found myself most happy with just one.
- viraptor 4y agoMaybe they don't. I've heard this story a few times, but never in a way that could be verified. It's a bit of an urban legend equivalent for me. Maybe there's even someone who pulled it off for a while. But just as likely it's a joke that became a "true story". Same as the manager throwing the CVs in the air to choose the lucky ones.
- swader999 4y agoHonestly I posted that as a joke. But I am intrigued if it actually can be done. Take the easy jobs, apply a 10x/4 for a two x effort at all your jobs. Be careful to only accept jobs that are low on meeting expectations.
- zrail 4y agoIMO the people that can actually succeed while overemployed could be just as successful, if not more so, as an above-the-board consultant or freelancer. It just seems like inventing a way to do something that already exists and many people do.
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- burntoutfire 4y agoHow can people constanly like like that? I mean, they must constantly cover up the reason why they couldn't join a call or couldn't answer on chat at the moment etc.. Not to mention outright lies during interviews. I guess they also have to stop maintaining their Linkedin.
- babelfish 4y agoThis is why tech needs unions.
- 5350-uiop-1130 4y agoI agree, i don't think this narrative of "just move" applies to 90% of developers. And most people are not in a position to just leave...