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I mean this is Capitalism 101. The Pandemic provided leverage to Employees and they heavily utilized it (some even abused). Now, the leverage may shift back to

I mean this is Capitalism 101. The Pandemic provided leverage to Employees and they heavily utilized it (some even abused). Now, the leverage may shift back to employers and they can decide. If enough employees quit, then companies will have no choice. Supply and Demand.

toomuchtodo 4y ago
Employees can also attempt to unionize to keep remote work as a benefit. Organizing efforts are protected by US labor law. They can also lobby their state governments (because, real talk, Congress is a joke and it isn't going to happen there) to legislate that employers must offer remote work when the job can be performed remotely (just as state by state, employers must provide salary information in job listings or upon request). Democracy and all that jazz.
- idiotsecant 4y ago
  Employees can unionize but particularly the HN cohort never will.
  - toomuchtodo 4y ago
    Hard agree, but the HN cohort is not a majority of any class of worker.
turtlebits 4y ago
Agreed. I don't see why there is so much uproar about going into the office. If you were hired with the expectation that you go in, it's not unreasonable for your employer to ask you to return, regardless of productivity gain/loss. Have a talk with your manager, and if it doesn't go the way you want it to, stay and commute or quit.
MisterBastahrd 4y ago
Leverage has not, in fact, shifted back. Every single person I've interviewed in the past two months for roles at my company has declared that they were forced to go back to the office by their employer and do not want to commute anymore. Companies are experiencing brain drain and their executives are too stupid to recognize that a permanent shift has occurred. You don't get to (a) keep wages low for existing employees in a market where wages have been increasing by 10% a year for years and (b) make demands of them that they almost universally disapprove of.

toomuchtodo 4y ago

Employees can also attempt to unionize to keep remote work as a benefit. Organizing efforts are protected by US labor law. They can also lobby their state governments (because, real talk, Congress is a joke and it isn't going to happen there) to legislate that employers must offer remote work when the job can be performed remotely (just as state by state, employers must provide salary information in job listings or upon request). Democracy and all that jazz.

idiotsecant 4y ago
Employees can unionize but particularly the HN cohort never will.
- toomuchtodo 4y ago
  Hard agree, but the HN cohort is not a majority of any class of worker.

turtlebits 4y ago

Agreed. I don't see why there is so much uproar about going into the office. If you were hired with the expectation that you go in, it's not unreasonable for your employer to ask you to return, regardless of productivity gain/loss. Have a talk with your manager, and if it doesn't go the way you want it to, stay and commute or quit.

MisterBastahrd 4y ago

Leverage has not, in fact, shifted back. Every single person I've interviewed in the past two months for roles at my company has declared that they were forced to go back to the office by their employer and do not want to commute anymore. Companies are experiencing brain drain and their executives are too stupid to recognize that a permanent shift has occurred. You don't get to (a) keep wages low for existing employees in a market where wages have been increasing by 10% a year for years and (b) make demands of them that they almost universally disapprove of.