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> In recent years, however, some mappers have tried more ambitious/unconventional designs with poly counts far exceeding those of the original id Software level

> In recent years, however, some mappers have tried more ambitious/unconventional designs with poly counts far exceeding those of the original id Software levels from 25 years ago. Can anyone tell me the best way to discover such maps?

mikewhy 4y ago
quaddicted, linked in the text you've quoted, is a great resource.
- andybak 4y ago
  I saw that but it's a huge, sprawling site. I guess I could just go to https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/ https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/ which is a list of maps and sort by size. But that will not neccesarily give me the most complex maps (I might just get map packs etc) Is there a better way?
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  - TheAceOfHearts 4y ago
    There appear to be a few dedicated YouTube channels. Quake 2022 Community Preview https://youtu.be/ARsN0xldnys https://youtu.be/ARsN0xldnys GreenwoodQuake also appears to showcase a lot of levels. I'd sort by most views and try out all the top entries. https://youtu.be/euyJa1rOZGg https://youtu.be/euyJa1rOZGg
  - theevilsharpie 4y ago
    QuadAddicted has a "Random Screenshot" function[1] that will essentially show recommendations for levels that have achieved a reasonably high rating. It's not necessarily limited to large levels only, but most of the recommendations will be decent. Refresh for a different set of recommendations. If you're specifically looking for "large" levels that will stress even modern Quake engines, the Quake mapper "ORL" is known for making huge, sprawling levels, with "Ter Shibboleth"[2] being the most extreme example. Also notable mentions are the maps "Tears of the False God" and "The Forgotten Sepulcher", both part of Arcane Dimensions 1.8[3] (and Arcane Dimensions in general is filled with very complex maps). Also worth mentioning is Honey[4]. While it's not as technically engine-breaking as some modern maps, the level design and gameplay is nevertheless known for its sheer scale, so much so that "Honey" has basically become its own map genre. As a general heuristic for finding large, complex maps: 1. In the QuadAddicted map section[5], sort by the most recently-released maps. The Quake mapping community is small, and many of the mappers have been doing so for a long time. Many of the newer maps will be larger in scale and complexity than older maps from the '90s. 2. Mappers these days often organize their map releases into so-called "Jams" that fit a particular theme. If you search for "jam" in the map name, it'll usually be a high quality map pack. 3. "Speed Maps" and "Turtle Maps" are maps created under a significant time constraint. They can be interesting exercises, and allow mappers to try and get feedback on new things, but if you're looking for large, polished maps, you can skip these. --- [1] https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/random_recommendations.php https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/random_recommendations.ph... [2] https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/ter_shibboleth_drake_redux.html https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/ter_shibboleth_drake_redu... [3] https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/ad_v1_80p1final.html https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/ad_v1_80p1final.html [4] https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/honey.html https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/honey.html [5] https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/ https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/
hnthrowaway0328 4y ago
In Quaddicted, try the following: - Anything made by czg - Try this one: ne_ruins.zip - The Altar of Storms
jjordan 4y ago
Many of the best community-made maps have already been added to the Arcane Dimensions mod. My personal favorite is Tears of the False God by Bal. Truly incredible work.
- andybak 4y ago
  Wow. That's great. Now to see if it runs in VR on the Quest.

mikewhy 4y ago

quaddicted, linked in the text you've quoted, is a great resource.

andybak 4y ago
I saw that but it's a huge, sprawling site. I guess I could just go to https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/ https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/ which is a list of maps and sort by size. But that will not neccesarily give me the most complex maps (I might just get map packs etc) Is there a better way?
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- TheAceOfHearts 4y ago
  There appear to be a few dedicated YouTube channels. Quake 2022 Community Preview https://youtu.be/ARsN0xldnys https://youtu.be/ARsN0xldnys GreenwoodQuake also appears to showcase a lot of levels. I'd sort by most views and try out all the top entries. https://youtu.be/euyJa1rOZGg https://youtu.be/euyJa1rOZGg
- theevilsharpie 4y ago
  QuadAddicted has a "Random Screenshot" function[1] that will essentially show recommendations for levels that have achieved a reasonably high rating. It's not necessarily limited to large levels only, but most of the recommendations will be decent. Refresh for a different set of recommendations. If you're specifically looking for "large" levels that will stress even modern Quake engines, the Quake mapper "ORL" is known for making huge, sprawling levels, with "Ter Shibboleth"[2] being the most extreme example. Also notable mentions are the maps "Tears of the False God" and "The Forgotten Sepulcher", both part of Arcane Dimensions 1.8[3] (and Arcane Dimensions in general is filled with very complex maps). Also worth mentioning is Honey[4]. While it's not as technically engine-breaking as some modern maps, the level design and gameplay is nevertheless known for its sheer scale, so much so that "Honey" has basically become its own map genre. As a general heuristic for finding large, complex maps: 1. In the QuadAddicted map section[5], sort by the most recently-released maps. The Quake mapping community is small, and many of the mappers have been doing so for a long time. Many of the newer maps will be larger in scale and complexity than older maps from the '90s. 2. Mappers these days often organize their map releases into so-called "Jams" that fit a particular theme. If you search for "jam" in the map name, it'll usually be a high quality map pack. 3. "Speed Maps" and "Turtle Maps" are maps created under a significant time constraint. They can be interesting exercises, and allow mappers to try and get feedback on new things, but if you're looking for large, polished maps, you can skip these. --- [1] https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/random_recommendations.php https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/random_recommendations.ph... [2] https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/ter_shibboleth_drake_redux.html https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/ter_shibboleth_drake_redu... [3] https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/ad_v1_80p1final.html https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/ad_v1_80p1final.html [4] https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/honey.html https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/honey.html [5] https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/ https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/

hnthrowaway0328 4y ago

In Quaddicted, try the following: - Anything made by czg - Try this one: ne_ruins.zip - The Altar of Storms

jjordan 4y ago

Many of the best community-made maps have already been added to the Arcane Dimensions mod. My personal favorite is Tears of the False God by Bal. Truly incredible work.

andybak 4y ago
Wow. That's great. Now to see if it runs in VR on the Quest.