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The parents and grandparents should just get vaccinated. The virus will never go away. There's no reason to live in perpetual fear. Masks may work, but mask m

by hsn915 4y ago

The parents and grandparents should just get vaccinated. The virus will never go away. There's no reason to live in perpetual fear. Masks may work, but mask mandates don't work. You can't force people to do something they don't like 24/7. They will take off the mask when you're not looking, or they will wear it in a bad way on purpose. Specially when it comes to kids.

manuelabeledo 4y ago
> You can't force people to do something they don't like 24/7. Unpopular but necessary laws exist. Also, I’m pretty sure that mask mandates weren’t rejected by a majority of the population, but a vocal minority instead.
- colpabar 4y ago
  Laws? Should the police be involved?
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    > Laws? Should the police be involved? No, the police should not be, and generally are not, involved in most non-criminal laws.
    - hajile 4y ago
      Police enforce EVERY law. Even the most minor infractions are ultimately backed up with the idea that the police will force you to comply. We have plenty of examples up to and including little kids getting tasered and arrested for minor or even imaginary infractions. Throughout history, there has been no law so vile that police cannot be found who are willing to enforce that law.
    - colpabar 4y ago
      It seems ridiculous to claim the police can't possibly be involved in any kind of legal matter. I dated a girl who once had a panic attack, and because of some policy, the hospital she first went to called the police and they literally handcuffed her inside a van to take her to a different hospital. edit: I guess I do agree with you that they should not be involved. But my point is that laws tend to give police "justification" to use force, whether they're supposed to or not. I am not an anarchist, we do need laws, but I think it's important that we remember who will be enforcing them when new ones are suggested.
- hsn915 4y ago
  You can't force this top down. It has to come bottom up. Famously alcohol ban didn't work in America. Famously the left argues that laws against drugs don't work. Famously the left says that if you ban abortion it will just go underground.
jkubicek 4y ago
> There's no reason to live in perpetual fear. I find this take obnoxious. I don't live in perpetual fear of busses, but I also don't go for a casual twilight stroll in the middle of a bus lane. I'm not sure what the end-game for COVID is, but I'm exceedingly willing to take some minor precautions while cases and hospitalizations are rising and hundreds of Americans are dying daily.
- StanislavPetrov 4y ago
  >I find this take obnoxious. I don't live in perpetual fear of busses, but I also don't go for a casual twilight stroll in the middle of a bus lane. >I'm not sure what the end-game for COVID is, but I'm exceedingly willing to take some minor precautions while cases and hospitalizations are rising and hundreds of Americans are dying daily. I find this take obnoxious. I'm not sure what the end-game for COVID is, but I'm exceedingly unwilling to carry out performative charades that have not been scientifically proven to have any impact on my health or the health of my fellow Americans.
  - belltaco 4y ago
    Not true https://coronavirus.delaware.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/177/2022/02/What-mask_English-1.jpg https://coronavirus.delaware.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/17...
    - StanislavPetrov 4y ago
      Did you read the parent article? Do you realize your "citation" is from people who self-reported? Do you realize that the "study" you cite shows that reduction in transmission from the use of "cloth masks" (the kind that are mandated) in this 534 person self-report "study" are listed as "not statistically significant"?
- hsn915 4y ago
  The proper way is to educate people on losing weight. Obesity is probably the #1 cause for covid fatalities. In the past 2 years, everyone who is obese could have lost weight and come within or very close to the normal range.

by hsn915 4y ago

manuelabeledo 4y ago

> You can't force people to do something they don't like 24/7. Unpopular but necessary laws exist. Also, I’m pretty sure that mask mandates weren’t rejected by a majority of the population, but a vocal minority instead.

colpabar 4y ago
Laws? Should the police be involved?
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > Laws? Should the police be involved? No, the police should not be, and generally are not, involved in most non-criminal laws.
  - hajile 4y ago
    Police enforce EVERY law. Even the most minor infractions are ultimately backed up with the idea that the police will force you to comply. We have plenty of examples up to and including little kids getting tasered and arrested for minor or even imaginary infractions. Throughout history, there has been no law so vile that police cannot be found who are willing to enforce that law.
  - colpabar 4y ago
    It seems ridiculous to claim the police can't possibly be involved in any kind of legal matter. I dated a girl who once had a panic attack, and because of some policy, the hospital she first went to called the police and they literally handcuffed her inside a van to take her to a different hospital. edit: I guess I do agree with you that they should not be involved. But my point is that laws tend to give police "justification" to use force, whether they're supposed to or not. I am not an anarchist, we do need laws, but I think it's important that we remember who will be enforcing them when new ones are suggested.
hsn915 4y ago
You can't force this top down. It has to come bottom up. Famously alcohol ban didn't work in America. Famously the left argues that laws against drugs don't work. Famously the left says that if you ban abortion it will just go underground.

jkubicek 4y ago

> There's no reason to live in perpetual fear. I find this take obnoxious. I don't live in perpetual fear of busses, but I also don't go for a casual twilight stroll in the middle of a bus lane. I'm not sure what the end-game for COVID is, but I'm exceedingly willing to take some minor precautions while cases and hospitalizations are rising and hundreds of Americans are dying daily.

StanislavPetrov 4y ago
>I find this take obnoxious. I don't live in perpetual fear of busses, but I also don't go for a casual twilight stroll in the middle of a bus lane. >I'm not sure what the end-game for COVID is, but I'm exceedingly willing to take some minor precautions while cases and hospitalizations are rising and hundreds of Americans are dying daily. I find this take obnoxious. I'm not sure what the end-game for COVID is, but I'm exceedingly unwilling to carry out performative charades that have not been scientifically proven to have any impact on my health or the health of my fellow Americans.
- belltaco 4y ago
  Not true https://coronavirus.delaware.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/177/2022/02/What-mask_English-1.jpg https://coronavirus.delaware.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/17...
  - StanislavPetrov 4y ago
    Did you read the parent article? Do you realize your "citation" is from people who self-reported? Do you realize that the "study" you cite shows that reduction in transmission from the use of "cloth masks" (the kind that are mandated) in this 534 person self-report "study" are listed as "not statistically significant"?
hsn915 4y ago
The proper way is to educate people on losing weight. Obesity is probably the #1 cause for covid fatalities. In the past 2 years, everyone who is obese could have lost weight and come within or very close to the normal range.