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can't parents and grandparents, you know, get vaccinated to protect themselves?

WalterGR 4y ago
Undoubtedly they did if they could. Vaccines are not 100% effective. Why are we still talking about this? "At Least Two Million Children Have Lost a Parent or Grandparent Caregiver to COVID" https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/at-least-two-million-children-have-lost-a-parent-or-grandparent-caregiver-to-covid/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/at-least-two-mill...
tablespoon 4y ago
> can't parents and grandparents, you know, get vaccinated to protect themselves? Not necessarily. Immunocompromise, have you heard of it?
- thehappypm 4y ago
  I would pay an increase in taxes to pay the immunocompromised to stay home. I’m so sick of people bringing this up as if it’s a justification for us to wear masks forever
  - WalterGR 4y ago
    Who is forcing you to wear a mask forever? That kind of hyperbole serves no one.
    - thehappypm 4y ago
      My town (Massachusetts) just reinstated an indoor mask mandate, so… where’s the hyperbole? We’re going to have these covid spikes forever
      - WalterGR 4y ago
        https://www.google.com/search?q=Massachusetts+indoor+mask+mandate&tbm=nws https://www.google.com/search?q=Massachusetts+indoor+mask+ma... It looks like one community in MA reinstated the mask mandate for town-owned buildings some time after the mask mandate had been lifted. That's different than being forced to wear a mask everywhere in public in perpetuity. If a person doesn't like wearing a mask, then they're free to not wear one and free to not go to town-owned buildings.
        thehappypm 4y ago
        “Free to not to go town-owned buildings” oh you mean schools and town hall? So easy to avoid!
        WalterGR 4y ago
        Then wear a mask.
    - danenania 4y ago
      Adults aren't being forced to wear masks, but young children are in many places when they go to school. No criteria has been set that I'm aware of for when this will stop, and there's no indication that covid is ever going away. I have a 3 year old that is starting preschool in a few months in California. It's not at all clear that mask requirements will be removed for young children here anytime in the next couple of years. I'm liberal on most issues and supported early covid interventions, but at this point, frankly, I feel that her wellbeing is being sacrificed for the sake of superstitious/quasi-religious beliefs.
      - thehappypm 4y ago
        It is anti science for sure. Literally the only ones wearing masks in NY public schools are the students at lowest risk — who also hurt the most from the socialization barrier.
chaostheory 4y ago
Vaccine efficacy drastically gets cut as weeks and months past, especially with newer variants. However, N95 masks stay at 95% efficacy no matter what the variant. It may be practical for grandparents to wear masks occasionally around their grandchildren and when they go into public indoor spaces, but it’s much less practical for parents since most live with their children.
meepmorp 4y ago
Widespread immunity leads to overall lower levels of sickness. Vaccines aren't just to protect the individual being vaccinated, they benefit the larger population.

Undoubtedly they did if they could. Vaccines are not 100% effective. Why are we still talking about this? "At Least Two Million Children Have Lost a Parent or Grandparent Caregiver to COVID" https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/at-least-two-million-children-have-lost-a-parent-or-grandparent-caregiver-to-covid/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/at-least-two-mill...

tablespoon 4y ago

> can't parents and grandparents, you know, get vaccinated to protect themselves? Not necessarily. Immunocompromise, have you heard of it?

thehappypm 4y ago
I would pay an increase in taxes to pay the immunocompromised to stay home. I’m so sick of people bringing this up as if it’s a justification for us to wear masks forever
- WalterGR 4y ago
  Who is forcing you to wear a mask forever? That kind of hyperbole serves no one.
  - thehappypm 4y ago
    My town (Massachusetts) just reinstated an indoor mask mandate, so… where’s the hyperbole? We’re going to have these covid spikes forever
    - WalterGR 4y ago
      https://www.google.com/search?q=Massachusetts+indoor+mask+mandate&tbm=nws https://www.google.com/search?q=Massachusetts+indoor+mask+ma... It looks like one community in MA reinstated the mask mandate for town-owned buildings some time after the mask mandate had been lifted. That's different than being forced to wear a mask everywhere in public in perpetuity. If a person doesn't like wearing a mask, then they're free to not wear one and free to not go to town-owned buildings.
      - thehappypm 4y ago
        “Free to not to go town-owned buildings” oh you mean schools and town hall? So easy to avoid!
        WalterGR 4y ago
        Then wear a mask.
  - danenania 4y ago
    Adults aren't being forced to wear masks, but young children are in many places when they go to school. No criteria has been set that I'm aware of for when this will stop, and there's no indication that covid is ever going away. I have a 3 year old that is starting preschool in a few months in California. It's not at all clear that mask requirements will be removed for young children here anytime in the next couple of years. I'm liberal on most issues and supported early covid interventions, but at this point, frankly, I feel that her wellbeing is being sacrificed for the sake of superstitious/quasi-religious beliefs.
    - thehappypm 4y ago
      It is anti science for sure. Literally the only ones wearing masks in NY public schools are the students at lowest risk — who also hurt the most from the socialization barrier.

chaostheory 4y ago

Vaccine efficacy drastically gets cut as weeks and months past, especially with newer variants. However, N95 masks stay at 95% efficacy no matter what the variant. It may be practical for grandparents to wear masks occasionally around their grandchildren and when they go into public indoor spaces, but it’s much less practical for parents since most live with their children.

meepmorp 4y ago

Widespread immunity leads to overall lower levels of sickness. Vaccines aren't just to protect the individual being vaccinated, they benefit the larger population.