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I think the interesting part here seems to be the tragicomical delivery of the message.

by dgb23 4y ago

ramesh31 4y ago
It reads like a person drunk on their own kool-aid. I can imagine "richest person ever" being a title that goes to your head. He's unhinged, and going full Howard Hughes.
- toolz 4y ago
  Going full "Hughes"? Exactly which policy has Musk put abnormally large influence on? Maybe the <$1MM lobbying tesla does? (compared to the ~$15MM amazon does in an arguably much less regulated space) The only thing I see with Musk becoming the richest man alive doing is putting a target on his back for unjustified attacks. He is the better of the billionaires and the world would have progressed technologically many decades farther if all billionaires behaved as he does. Not that I would claim that is "better" for humanity (as that is a very hard metric to define), but I don't think it's hard to imagine that being more optimal.
  - phillipcarter 4y ago
    I think OP is referring to how Musk acts like a drug addict. Because he does.
    - toolz 4y ago
      If we're not talking about hughes conquest to control the government then I'm at even more of a loss to how there's any comparison to Musk. Exactly how is Musk anything like the extremely OCD recluse? Musk who is notorious for sleeping in factories isn't anything like that so the only conclusion I can draw is that people just thought of the first "rich bad guy" that came to mind and drew a (weak) comparison.
      - phillipcarter 4y ago
        toolz 4y ago
        > I get it, you're emotionally invested in Musk. It'll take time, but you'll also come around to understanding that he's become unhinged. Who can argue with an argument as richly substantiated as this one?
        phillipcarter 4y ago
        Emotional investment is a powerful thing!
- coldpie 4y ago
  It's been pretty wild watching Elon set his reputation on fire over the past 6~10 years. He certainly had his detractors before then, but it's hard to find a single person standing up for him today. Too much money genuinely is an illness.
  - toolz 4y ago
    The vast majority of my peers prefer him to any other billionaire and why wouldn't they? Do you prefer the Zuckerbergs and Bezos' that do almost nothing but chase profit? I'll take the people who risk it for progressing tech and innovation any day of the week.
    - ABeeSea 4y ago
      Bezo’s isn’t progressing tech and innovation? Odd since there are very few areas of tech that Amazon/AWS aren’t on the cutting edge of.
      - toolz 4y ago
        The only tech advancement I can name off the top of my head from AWS is the dynamo paper in 2007, which to be fair has a substantial amount of influence. In terms of social impact I would say starlink alone will have more impact than any advancements amazon has made. There's no telling how many decades may have passed before people took terraforming mars seriously without someone like Musk - and that appears to have serious potential to save our species some day. I think that's hard to compare to AWS that effectively just enables better monetization of the internet through various bloated digital service industries. Granted I understand everything I'm comparing is extremely subjective, so I wouldn't say you're wrong by any means. My perspective is just very different than your own.
        ABeeSea 4y ago
        Amazon has a starlink competitor in project kuiper. AWS has made massive investments into solar and wind energy. AWS owns a chip company (Annapurna) producing cutting edge networking, virtualization, and server chips. AWS has a leading industrial IoT / computing at edge platform. AWS played a huge role in the development of Alexa, especially in regard to network latency. Even 15+ years later, S3’s new sharding algo and use of formal methods and proof based testing are as cutting edge is it comes.
s1artibartfast 4y ago
Keep in mind this is an email to his executive staff, not a company wide email.
- buffington 4y ago
  There were two emails. One to the executive staff, and another company wide email.
  - s1artibartfast 4y ago
    Was it? The recipients was not clear.
dsizzle 4y ago
The kicker for me was his follow-up tweet: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1531867103854317568?s=20 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1531867103854317568?s=20 It's one thing to troll for kicks or whatever but he's now implying people at Tesla working remotely haven't really been working?

I think the interesting part here seems to be the tragicomical delivery of the message.

by dgb23 4y ago

I think the interesting part here seems to be the tragicomical delivery of the message.

It reads like a person drunk on their own kool-aid. I can imagine "richest person ever" being a title that goes to your head. He's unhinged, and going full Howard Hughes.

toolz 4y ago
Going full "Hughes"? Exactly which policy has Musk put abnormally large influence on? Maybe the <$1MM lobbying tesla does? (compared to the ~$15MM amazon does in an arguably much less regulated space) The only thing I see with Musk becoming the richest man alive doing is putting a target on his back for unjustified attacks. He is the better of the billionaires and the world would have progressed technologically many decades farther if all billionaires behaved as he does. Not that I would claim that is "better" for humanity (as that is a very hard metric to define), but I don't think it's hard to imagine that being more optimal.
- phillipcarter 4y ago
  I think OP is referring to how Musk acts like a drug addict. Because he does.
  - toolz 4y ago
    If we're not talking about hughes conquest to control the government then I'm at even more of a loss to how there's any comparison to Musk. Exactly how is Musk anything like the extremely OCD recluse? Musk who is notorious for sleeping in factories isn't anything like that so the only conclusion I can draw is that people just thought of the first "rich bad guy" that came to mind and drew a (weak) comparison.
    - phillipcarter 4y ago
      - toolz 4y ago
        > I get it, you're emotionally invested in Musk. It'll take time, but you'll also come around to understanding that he's become unhinged. Who can argue with an argument as richly substantiated as this one?
        phillipcarter 4y ago
        Emotional investment is a powerful thing!
coldpie 4y ago
It's been pretty wild watching Elon set his reputation on fire over the past 6~10 years. He certainly had his detractors before then, but it's hard to find a single person standing up for him today. Too much money genuinely is an illness.
- toolz 4y ago
  The vast majority of my peers prefer him to any other billionaire and why wouldn't they? Do you prefer the Zuckerbergs and Bezos' that do almost nothing but chase profit? I'll take the people who risk it for progressing tech and innovation any day of the week.
  - ABeeSea 4y ago
    Bezo’s isn’t progressing tech and innovation? Odd since there are very few areas of tech that Amazon/AWS aren’t on the cutting edge of.
    - toolz 4y ago
      The only tech advancement I can name off the top of my head from AWS is the dynamo paper in 2007, which to be fair has a substantial amount of influence. In terms of social impact I would say starlink alone will have more impact than any advancements amazon has made. There's no telling how many decades may have passed before people took terraforming mars seriously without someone like Musk - and that appears to have serious potential to save our species some day. I think that's hard to compare to AWS that effectively just enables better monetization of the internet through various bloated digital service industries. Granted I understand everything I'm comparing is extremely subjective, so I wouldn't say you're wrong by any means. My perspective is just very different than your own.
      - ABeeSea 4y ago
        Amazon has a starlink competitor in project kuiper. AWS has made massive investments into solar and wind energy. AWS owns a chip company (Annapurna) producing cutting edge networking, virtualization, and server chips. AWS has a leading industrial IoT / computing at edge platform. AWS played a huge role in the development of Alexa, especially in regard to network latency. Even 15+ years later, S3’s new sharding algo and use of formal methods and proof based testing are as cutting edge is it comes.

s1artibartfast 4y ago

Keep in mind this is an email to his executive staff, not a company wide email.

buffington 4y ago
There were two emails. One to the executive staff, and another company wide email.
- s1artibartfast 4y ago
  Was it? The recipients was not clear.

dsizzle 4y ago

The kicker for me was his follow-up tweet: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1531867103854317568?s=20 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1531867103854317568?s=20 It's one thing to troll for kicks or whatever but he's now implying people at Tesla working remotely haven't really been working?