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Any evidence that overtime at 60 hours a week, every single week forever is mandatory for all Tesla factory workers? That seems unusual compared to how most ho

by imgabe 4y ago

Any evidence that overtime at 60 hours a week, every single week forever is mandatory for all Tesla factory workers? That seems unusual compared to how most hourly jobs are run. Lots of people are happy to take overtime when it's available. Never seen anything that says 60hrs per week is mandatory all the time.

kennywinker 4y ago
Evidence: https://twitter.com/wholemarsblog/status/1531807546729799687 https://twitter.com/wholemarsblog/status/1531807546729799687 -> 40 hours a week is less than we ask of factory workers So straight from the horses mouth the expectation is somewhere over 40. No mention of that being a “sometimes” situation. https://www.glassdoor.com/FAQ/Tesla-Question-FAQ200052-E43129.htm https://www.glassdoor.com/FAQ/Tesla-Question-FAQ200052-E4312... “Insane work hours for everyone, no overtime pay” “Starting hourly pay is essentially poverty wage in the Bay Area and you only get overtime pay after 10 hours, not 8 hours like you would think.” “Occasionally is fine, but 12 - 14 hours a day five days a week is not safe especially considering we work with electricity” Too many quotes to that effect to list them all. Universally they say: overtime starts at 10 hours not eight, there is a lot of it (i didn’t see any comment citing overtime under 60 hours), and it’s mandatory.
- imgabe 4y ago
  > So straight from the horses mouth the expectation is somewhere over 40. There are 19 other numbers between 40 and 60. How do you reach the conclusion that since it's more than 40, it must necessarily be exactly 60 all the time for every employee? > “Insane work hours for everyone, no overtime pay” > you only get overtime pay after 10 hours, not 8 hours like you would think. It sounds like these are salaried positions and they are not entitled to any overtime pay. If they were talking about hourly positions they would be getting time-and-half from 41 hours on, because that's the law. The fact that they're getting any overtime pay at all in a salaried position is more than most companies do and is beyond what is required by law. From the Department of Labor website: > Nonexempt workers must be paid overtime pay at a rate of not less than one and one-half times their regular rates of pay after 40 hours of work in a workweek. https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/compliance-assistance/handy-reference-guide-flsa#1 https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/compliance-assistance/handy... So, there's no way the overtime after 10+ applies to non-exempt employees.

by imgabe 4y ago

kennywinker 4y ago

Evidence: https://twitter.com/wholemarsblog/status/1531807546729799687 https://twitter.com/wholemarsblog/status/1531807546729799687 -> 40 hours a week is less than we ask of factory workers So straight from the horses mouth the expectation is somewhere over 40. No mention of that being a “sometimes” situation. https://www.glassdoor.com/FAQ/Tesla-Question-FAQ200052-E43129.htm https://www.glassdoor.com/FAQ/Tesla-Question-FAQ200052-E4312... “Insane work hours for everyone, no overtime pay” “Starting hourly pay is essentially poverty wage in the Bay Area and you only get overtime pay after 10 hours, not 8 hours like you would think.” “Occasionally is fine, but 12 - 14 hours a day five days a week is not safe especially considering we work with electricity” Too many quotes to that effect to list them all. Universally they say: overtime starts at 10 hours not eight, there is a lot of it (i didn’t see any comment citing overtime under 60 hours), and it’s mandatory.

imgabe 4y ago
> So straight from the horses mouth the expectation is somewhere over 40. There are 19 other numbers between 40 and 60. How do you reach the conclusion that since it's more than 40, it must necessarily be exactly 60 all the time for every employee? > “Insane work hours for everyone, no overtime pay” > you only get overtime pay after 10 hours, not 8 hours like you would think. It sounds like these are salaried positions and they are not entitled to any overtime pay. If they were talking about hourly positions they would be getting time-and-half from 41 hours on, because that's the law. The fact that they're getting any overtime pay at all in a salaried position is more than most companies do and is beyond what is required by law. From the Department of Labor website: > Nonexempt workers must be paid overtime pay at a rate of not less than one and one-half times their regular rates of pay after 40 hours of work in a workweek. https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/compliance-assistance/handy-reference-guide-flsa#1 https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/compliance-assistance/handy... So, there's no way the overtime after 10+ applies to non-exempt employees.