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IMHO, the best they can do is being honest about what they can't say due to an NDA. For example, if they can't say that they don't own the design, they might sa

by moring 4y ago

IMHO, the best they can do is being honest about what they can't say due to an NDA. For example, if they can't say that they don't own the design, they might say "due to an NDA we cannot say who owns the design". This goes a long way to earn trust.

jimnotgym 4y ago
It depends if the NDA allows them to discuss it at all!
- ClumsyPilot 4y ago
  These has to be a limit to this madness, can I get an NDA that does not let you state your name to anyone
  - vel0city 4y ago
    There are limits to contracts in the law. There would have to be some form of consideration to that contract. If you gave me a million dollars a year but I just can't use my current legal name in casual conversation, I'd take that contract. If you just wrote a contract that said "you can't use your name, you get nothing" its an unenforceable contract under US (and most of the developed world's) contract laws under the principle of consideration. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consideration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consideration
TheSpiceIsLife 4y ago
I don't know about these things a great deal, but it would seem reasonable to me that an NDA might include limiting what you can say about the NDA?
rasz 4y ago
They already claim to fully own the design. >Our main manufacturing partner is Compal, who makes laptops for many other large US notebook makers. >Apart from off the shelf modules like the SSD, RAM, WiFi, and LCD, the Framework Laptop is entirely custom to us, and we own all of the design and tooling. If you locate Acer Swift 3 SF313-53 diagram it will be 90% same thing, just shuffled around with different mechanical design.
- mschuster91 4y ago
  They might be owning the design itself, but I can easily imagine that the NDAs required to get access to specifications and design guidelines for parts like the CPU, GPU and other chipsets include a provision that no material must be released that allows others to clean-room reverse-engineer the protected material.

by moring 4y ago

jimnotgym 4y ago

It depends if the NDA allows them to discuss it at all!

ClumsyPilot 4y ago
These has to be a limit to this madness, can I get an NDA that does not let you state your name to anyone
- vel0city 4y ago
  There are limits to contracts in the law. There would have to be some form of consideration to that contract. If you gave me a million dollars a year but I just can't use my current legal name in casual conversation, I'd take that contract. If you just wrote a contract that said "you can't use your name, you get nothing" its an unenforceable contract under US (and most of the developed world's) contract laws under the principle of consideration. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consideration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consideration

TheSpiceIsLife 4y ago

I don't know about these things a great deal, but it would seem reasonable to me that an NDA might include limiting what you can say about the NDA?

rasz 4y ago

They already claim to fully own the design. >Our main manufacturing partner is Compal, who makes laptops for many other large US notebook makers. >Apart from off the shelf modules like the SSD, RAM, WiFi, and LCD, the Framework Laptop is entirely custom to us, and we own all of the design and tooling. If you locate Acer Swift 3 SF313-53 diagram it will be 90% same thing, just shuffled around with different mechanical design.

mschuster91 4y ago
They might be owning the design itself, but I can easily imagine that the NDAs required to get access to specifications and design guidelines for parts like the CPU, GPU and other chipsets include a provision that no material must be released that allows others to clean-room reverse-engineer the protected material.