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I'm sure Tesla execs get paid enough to cover the extra hours they do. You are right it's about what's worth the exchange to you. For me I'll work an extra 30%

• iancmceachern 4y ago
  And I've happily made that trade in the past as well. The point I'm making is it doesn't sound like they have the option to say no to the extra time and pay. It's not a choice at that point, and it stops being a good thing too. If it's like overtime or a bonus where folks that choose (operative word is choose) to do that they can get more pay in return. If they choose not to, not. That's not this. He's literally saying of you want to stay at tesla this is it, you must work the extra hours. That's not good and it's not how you maximize your workforce. It's how you churn through talent and spit it out.
  • kube-system 4y ago
    Choosing a different job is how you choose different hours. There are few jobs where you get to pick how many hours you want to work, especially when salaried.
    • iancmceachern 4y ago
      Agreed on the first part, not on the second. There are in fact many. Many, most companies really allow people to work more or less as their life allows. It's actually quite common in the regular community (not as much among hustle culture startup folks like the average HN reader)
      • kube-system 4y ago
        It depends on the job. In jobs constrained by labor supply, there’s a good bit of flexibility. If you do a rank-and-file job at a megacorp and there’s a stack of resumes on your boss’s desk, you show up when you’re scheduled or you get replaced.
        • iancmceachern 4y ago
          "If you do a rank-and-file job at a megacorp and there’s a stack of resumes on your boss’s desk, you show up when you’re scheduled or you get replaced." I agree that this is a simple reality that does happen all too often, but also want to point out that it's not right, and often against the law. Workers time off, sick time, etc. is protected by law. Tehhnically businesses can't fire people for taking time off. I get that it happens all the time, but it shouldn't.
          • kube-system 4y ago
            Time off doesn't really enable anyone to work a different schedule, as mentioned above. If your boss wants 40hrs/week and you want to work 30hrs/week, you’ll burn two weeks of time off in 8 weeks.
            • iancmceachern 4y ago
              I'm referring to long term time off like reduced schedules due to family, personal, or medical hardships. I've worked with dozens of people who worked reduced schedules for years of their careers for many various personal, medical and family reasons. It's actually much more common than you expect.
              • kube-system 4y ago
                I have worked with many people who do the same as well. You can do it if you're in a privileged job, like many of us work, or if you were hired under those circumstances. If you have a below-median wage job where you're expected to work 40hrs/week and you have a medical hardship, you'll be looking at being reassigned to a part-time position at best, and if one is not available, you'll be spending your FMLA time looking for a new job.
    • iancmceachern 4y ago
      Consulting. It can be any job, just billed differently.