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There is a professional finger drummer going by NularMusic who wrote a Max For Live plugin[1] which lets him pre-sequence note progressions, and he becomes a on

by bryans 4y ago

There is a professional finger drummer going by NularMusic who wrote a Max For Live plugin[1] which lets him pre-sequence note progressions, and he becomes a one-man-band using just a Launchpad Pro. It's quite impressive and he performs improvised sets[2] using it. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-23VKnjcQw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-23VKnjcQw [2] https://www.reddit.com/rpan/r/RedditSessions/t2wyq0 https://www.reddit.com/rpan/r/RedditSessions/t2wyq0

Rochus 4y ago
Well, triggering sequences is not the same thing as playing live; if you want to see a really impressive finger drummer, here is one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_46SRMVOr8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_46SRMVOr8
- yesenadam 4y ago
  Mm! Lots of amazing playing on that, thanks. Never heard VW sound so good either.
- bryans 4y ago
  You clearly didn't bother watching the video before commenting, because he's not just triggering sequences, and you're acting childishly dismissive of a traditional drummer with a mountain of talent who is, in fact, performing live. I can't even imagine what would compel you to publicly declare that another musician isn't a real musician, especially given that both his and your performance methods are extremely similar. Your disrespectful elitism isn't welcome anywhere, and certainly isn't reflective of the greater music community.
  - Rochus 4y ago
    If you don't like the video, just go to another one in his channel; I admired the talents of this guy since the first video was published long a go where he played like hell on an old yamaha drum machine. There is a difference between true mastery on an instrument and the ability to assemble nice sequences and start them at the touch of a button. People today are satisfied enough with the latter. This is not a value judgment, but a fact.
    - bryans 4y ago
      I just explained to you that, if you had watched the video, it would be obvious that he's not just pressing a button to start a sequence. Your response was to again falsely claim that he is pushing a button to start a sequence, when in reality, he is manually playing all of the drums and notes in the exact same way that you play your instruments, and in the exact same way your video portrays. So he's actually doing the same thing and more than what you claim is "real" musicianship. I have never heard a musician speak so disparagingly about another musician in the way you are right now. It's disturbing and completely inappropriate.
      - Rochus 4y ago
        Just in case you didn't notice: this thread is about visual coordination between musicians in an orchestra or smaller formation; so it is up-front unclear why you post a video of a techno performance where the DJ also operates some drum pads in addition to the sequencer. And now you're turning it into a values debate; seems to me like you just look for confrontation.
        bryans 4y ago
        Let's recap. You made a comment about one person (yourself) playing multiple instruments at once. Somebody replied asking to see that, because it "sounded cool." I provided another example of one person performing multiple instruments at once. Instead of watching the video (or ignoring the conversation), you instead decided to publicly declare that wasn't "real" musicianship, and provided a link to a video where the drummer is literally doing the exact same thing that you just declared wasn't "real" musicianship. You then decided to not watch the video again and instead doubled down on your false claims. So, if you're asking why we're discussing one-man-bands in a "thread about visual coordination between musicians," that question falls to you, since you were the one who started the sidetracked conversation, which turned out to be a self-aggrandizing advertisement. Yet, now you're gaslighting and trying to make it sound like I did something wrong when, in fact, you were the one who both sidetracked the thread and then confrontationally declared a musician wasn't a real musician, thereby turning it into a "values debate" -- despite obviously meeting all of your requirements for "real" musicianship, since you're both quite literally using identical methods and technologies. The video visibly shows him playing all of the instruments and not using a sequencer, which betrays that you still haven't actually watched the video.

by bryans 4y ago

Rochus 4y ago

Well, triggering sequences is not the same thing as playing live; if you want to see a really impressive finger drummer, here is one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_46SRMVOr8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_46SRMVOr8

yesenadam 4y ago
Mm! Lots of amazing playing on that, thanks. Never heard VW sound so good either.
bryans 4y ago
You clearly didn't bother watching the video before commenting, because he's not just triggering sequences, and you're acting childishly dismissive of a traditional drummer with a mountain of talent who is, in fact, performing live. I can't even imagine what would compel you to publicly declare that another musician isn't a real musician, especially given that both his and your performance methods are extremely similar. Your disrespectful elitism isn't welcome anywhere, and certainly isn't reflective of the greater music community.
- Rochus 4y ago
  If you don't like the video, just go to another one in his channel; I admired the talents of this guy since the first video was published long a go where he played like hell on an old yamaha drum machine. There is a difference between true mastery on an instrument and the ability to assemble nice sequences and start them at the touch of a button. People today are satisfied enough with the latter. This is not a value judgment, but a fact.
  - bryans 4y ago
    I just explained to you that, if you had watched the video, it would be obvious that he's not just pressing a button to start a sequence. Your response was to again falsely claim that he is pushing a button to start a sequence, when in reality, he is manually playing all of the drums and notes in the exact same way that you play your instruments, and in the exact same way your video portrays. So he's actually doing the same thing and more than what you claim is "real" musicianship. I have never heard a musician speak so disparagingly about another musician in the way you are right now. It's disturbing and completely inappropriate.
    - Rochus 4y ago
      Just in case you didn't notice: this thread is about visual coordination between musicians in an orchestra or smaller formation; so it is up-front unclear why you post a video of a techno performance where the DJ also operates some drum pads in addition to the sequencer. And now you're turning it into a values debate; seems to me like you just look for confrontation.
      - bryans 4y ago
        Let's recap. You made a comment about one person (yourself) playing multiple instruments at once. Somebody replied asking to see that, because it "sounded cool." I provided another example of one person performing multiple instruments at once. Instead of watching the video (or ignoring the conversation), you instead decided to publicly declare that wasn't "real" musicianship, and provided a link to a video where the drummer is literally doing the exact same thing that you just declared wasn't "real" musicianship. You then decided to not watch the video again and instead doubled down on your false claims. So, if you're asking why we're discussing one-man-bands in a "thread about visual coordination between musicians," that question falls to you, since you were the one who started the sidetracked conversation, which turned out to be a self-aggrandizing advertisement. Yet, now you're gaslighting and trying to make it sound like I did something wrong when, in fact, you were the one who both sidetracked the thread and then confrontationally declared a musician wasn't a real musician, thereby turning it into a "values debate" -- despite obviously meeting all of your requirements for "real" musicianship, since you're both quite literally using identical methods and technologies. The video visibly shows him playing all of the instruments and not using a sequencer, which betrays that you still haven't actually watched the video.