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> guys like Elon flaunt criminal behaviors So you’re just gonna throw that in there just like that, where do you get that from?

by soheil 4y ago

greesil 4y ago
The first paragraph was good, no?
toomuchtodo 4y ago
https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2018-226 https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2018-226 https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/may/27/elon-musk-sec-letter-late-twitter-stake-filing-takeover https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/may/27/elon-musk... https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1418091/000000000022003713/filename1.pdf https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1418091/000000000022... (this ignores the legal yet malicious actions of Musk attempting to have the Cooley LLP law firm employing an ex-SEC attorney previously engaged in matters with Musk fire the attorney through coercion: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/15/tesla-asked-cooley-to-fire-lawyer-who-worked-on-sec-elon-musk-probe.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/15/tesla-asked-cooley-to-fire-l...)
- soheil 4y ago
  This is a case where words used are inflammatory on purpose to paint a damning picture of someone. The context in which that phrase is used is much much more nefarious than shunning the SEC over some dumb tweet or hiring a legal firm, which someone on HN doesn't approve of because they don't like one of their lawyers. Please look up the context in which the phrase "criminal behavior" is typically applied.
  - toomuchtodo 4y ago
    Fraud is criminal behavior. Whether your agree what Musk did is fraud is immaterial; the charges were clear, as was his $40M settlement.
    - soheil 4y ago
      HN is not a court room that's why I'm having a hard time understanding why language like that is becoming more and more common place here. Maybe it has something to do with many prominent startup CEOs being lawyers, Cloudflare CEO comes to mind. Can we keep HN spirit the same? The same spirit that values geeks, rewards going against the grain and celebrates individuals not based on how society judges them, but on how intrinsically interesting and beneficial their work is to humanity.
Spooky23 4y ago
Perhaps you’ve heard of Twitter?

> guys like Elon flaunt criminal behaviors So you’re just gonna throw that in there just like that, where do you get that from?

by soheil 4y ago

> guys like Elon flaunt criminal behaviors So you’re just gonna throw that in there just like that, where do you get that from?

greesil 4y ago

The first paragraph was good, no?

toomuchtodo 4y ago

https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2018-226 https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2018-226 https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/may/27/elon-musk-sec-letter-late-twitter-stake-filing-takeover https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/may/27/elon-musk... https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1418091/000000000022003713/filename1.pdf https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1418091/000000000022... (this ignores the legal yet malicious actions of Musk attempting to have the Cooley LLP law firm employing an ex-SEC attorney previously engaged in matters with Musk fire the attorney through coercion: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/15/tesla-asked-cooley-to-fire-lawyer-who-worked-on-sec-elon-musk-probe.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/15/tesla-asked-cooley-to-fire-l...)

soheil 4y ago
This is a case where words used are inflammatory on purpose to paint a damning picture of someone. The context in which that phrase is used is much much more nefarious than shunning the SEC over some dumb tweet or hiring a legal firm, which someone on HN doesn't approve of because they don't like one of their lawyers. Please look up the context in which the phrase "criminal behavior" is typically applied.
- toomuchtodo 4y ago
  Fraud is criminal behavior. Whether your agree what Musk did is fraud is immaterial; the charges were clear, as was his $40M settlement.
  - soheil 4y ago
    HN is not a court room that's why I'm having a hard time understanding why language like that is becoming more and more common place here. Maybe it has something to do with many prominent startup CEOs being lawyers, Cloudflare CEO comes to mind. Can we keep HN spirit the same? The same spirit that values geeks, rewards going against the grain and celebrates individuals not based on how society judges them, but on how intrinsically interesting and beneficial their work is to humanity.

Spooky23 4y ago

Perhaps you’ve heard of Twitter?