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I think people are missing the value proposition of framework here - pcmasterrace builders like PCs because you can access all the components and swap out or up
by jjcon 4y ago
I think people are missing the value proposition of framework here - pcmasterrace builders like PCs because you can access all the components and swap out or upgrade parts that are outdated or broken and you can customize your build. Board level repairs are even more out of reach for most the components in that sector (because at least Framework provides them to repair shops that ask).
- Waterluvian 4y agoI have Ship of Theseus’d my PC for 20 years now, starting when I was 15. Original ATX case but almost every other component has been replaced multiple times. I do love this about PCs.
- tomrod 4y agoI agree. A lot of folks in the comments are expressing that this is antithetical to the right of repair & being fully repairable. As far as I'm concerned, I can swap out my LCD, mainboard, and other components with literally no issue. This was Dell's original value prop, and it took repairability from weeks down to a call to the local Dell repair folks. I hope one day the schematics can be published, but at the moment? I figure let Framework establish themselves as a killer business in the space of laptop configurability/repairability/component swapping before pulling out the pitchforks for not releasing the silicon and metal mining agreements that become for their boards.
- joenathanone 4y ago>I can swap out my LCD, mainboard, and other components with literally no issue. This is the case for 99% of laptops.
- tomrod 4y agoI disagree. Sourcing parts and fixing broken laptop chasses have been a bane.
- theferalrobot 4y agoNearly all laptops manufactured after 2010 have storage, memory, WiFi and IO (or some combo of those) soldered to the motherboard. Not the case for framework
- margalabargala 4y agoI have six different laptops within an arms length of me made in the last 7 years, almost all different brands (Acer, Asus, Dell, Lenovo, HP) and every single one of them has replaceable storage, memory, and wifi. None of them requires anything more than a screwdriver to swap all of those components. Perhaps the highest end, lightest, thinnest laptops have these components soldered on, but it is certainly not the case for most middle-of-the-road laptops.
- jjcon 4y agoYou left out IO but oh well - ifixit has had 5 laptops that have recieved a 10/10 for repairability since 2010 and only 2 were released this decade (one was Framework). https://www.ifixit.com/laptop-repairability?sort=score https://www.ifixit.com/laptop-repairability?sort=score I don't think you can upgrade the CPU for a single laptop on this list, let alone many of the other components and certainly not for hardware that came out after the original laptop release. Framework has that upgradability, that repairability etc.
- jacquesm 4y ago