Then your state may be doing something right, unfortunately here the students are not getting a quality education for the cost. We try but we can't pull $2000 o

Then your state may be doing something right, unfortunately here the students are not getting a quality education for the cost. We try but we can't pull $2000 out of our pocket every semester to have group projects or other students programs. Fun fact with many of the external programs is you are actually paying them to do it. Though it's a "grant" the institution wants you to fundraise to pay them. Yeah, no. Because of this most students never touch a project outside of classes.