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Yeah it’s jarring when you see what teenagers post online about this. They really believe that they and their friends are going to drop dead from climate change

Yeah it’s jarring when you see what teenagers post online about this. They really believe that they and their friends are going to drop dead from climate change.

gedy 4y ago
Reminds me of high school in the cold war: "Why bother? The bombs are coming any day!"
- misslibby 4y ago
  That is why I disapprove of all the fear-mongering. I lived through that as a teen, and it was very depressing. I honestly thought I would never see my 30ieth birthday, either because of nukes or because of the hole in the ozone layer.
Shared404 4y ago
Given the number of "Once in a lifetime events" I as an early 20 year old have lived through, I entirely understand the feeling of everything is going to collapse. The house is made of cards, and there are people running around trying collect more cards than everyone else - even when those are at the base. Meanwhile, someones turned up the AC at one end of the house and the heater at the other, and we've got weird air currents blowing every which way.
- legalcorrection 4y ago
  - Shared404 4y ago
    9/11 was a matter of months after I was born. I watched my parents struggle to provide during 2008. We have been at war for the entirety of my time being sentient. It's been 12 years since we've had a year with "only" one mass shooting. I watched my siblings and friends miss out on 50%+ of their high school experience - due to a plague that has killed 1,000,000+ in the US alone. A mob stormed the capital building. We've spent the last several months closer to nuclear war than we have been since the cold war. On top of all that, we're stuck in a two party system where one does nothing, and one is actively malicious, and has the Supreme Court on the verge of tearing down a ruling which has been the basis of a massive number of other extremely important rulings. Don't tell me everything is fine.
    - abduhl 4y ago
    - Shared404 4y ago
      To the sibling to this, who presumably won't see it. > So you don’t remember 9/11 Correct, I don't remember the actual event. Just observed the trauma and fear that it inflicted, as most people of voting age at the time rallied to work together and... decrease our rights and blow up brown people. And the terror, on everyone's face when they talked about it. The videos in school where we watched clips of it happen, again and again, each year. So no, I don't remember it live, but that was in response to the "you've _lived_ through" portion of the above comment, or I would've skipped it anyways. > and were being raised in a two parent household during the housing crash Ha. I'm not going into detail here on that aspect of my life, but you're laughable here. > while a “war” (actually an occupation of two countries) you were totally disconnected from went on overseas? Legally still a war, resulting in perpetuation of PATRIOT et al. > And you were going to school all through this after when school shootings actually shocked the nation? "Haha, your generation and everyone else has become desensitized to the fact that every few months some lunatic shoots up a school/nightclub/party/$EVENT" ... yes, that's literally the point. > And you still didn’t learn that it’s spelled Capitol? That one's on me. Guess I shouldn't HN late at night after work/school. > And you think that we’re closer to nuclear war now than we were in the 00s and 90s (sorry, that’s unfair: you don’t even remember the 90s)? Based on my analysis of everyone's reactions around me? Yes. Based on the fact that there's a cancer-ridden egomaniac in charge of one of the worlds largest nuclear arsenals, and he seems determined to win at all costs? Yes. If I'm wrong I'd love to be corrected, but the only evidence you've provided are ad hominem attacks. > All while living in an era of expanded “human rights” from the very political establishments that you apparently now think are going to destroy society? /me facepalms That's the point. That's the freaking point. People made progress, and now there are people in positions of power actively trying to undo said progress. I have listened to some of these talking heads call me a demon, ask "when do we start using the guns?", say I deserve to die. And yet they keep getting more powerful. > Sorry, but your generation has never known adversity until 2020 and you grew up in one of the most peaceful times in human history. You’re part of the touchscreen generation. You’re a Zoomer. Even your generation’s name is soft. Ad hominem, [citation required], ad hominem, ad hominem. > The “once in a lifetime” events you hear about are clickbait. Tell me, was 9/11 not once in a lifetime? (again, remember that this was in response to events that people my age and older have lived through). Has Covid not been "reasonably" described as "once in a lifetime"? I know a lot of people described the 2008 recession as "once in a lifetime"? Was the mob on Jan 6 not "Once in a lifetime"? Would the Ukraine war not have qualified as "once in a lifetime" two decades ago? People have finally stopped using the term except as a "lol, yet another 'once in a lifetime' experience". The point is as much when my generation is coming of age as when we're raised. Half of us see no possible way to improve our standard of living - self improvement is hard when you need two or three full time jobs to survive.
  - Apocryphon 4y ago
    What metrics are you even looking at to make such a statement The Great Depression happened during the interwar period.
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- misslibby 4y ago
  Except you haven't really lived through anything serious at all, compared to previous generations. I find that kind of notion rather embarrassing.
Hextinium 4y ago
(I mentor highschool students) I have seen it a lot more of "why even try because our quality of life is going into the toilet" and less of "we are all going to die"

Yeah it’s jarring when you see what teenagers post online about this. They really believe that they and their friends are going to drop dead from climate change.

gedy 4y ago

Reminds me of high school in the cold war: "Why bother? The bombs are coming any day!"

misslibby 4y ago
That is why I disapprove of all the fear-mongering. I lived through that as a teen, and it was very depressing. I honestly thought I would never see my 30ieth birthday, either because of nukes or because of the hole in the ozone layer.

Shared404 4y ago

Given the number of "Once in a lifetime events" I as an early 20 year old have lived through, I entirely understand the feeling of everything is going to collapse. The house is made of cards, and there are people running around trying collect more cards than everyone else - even when those are at the base. Meanwhile, someones turned up the AC at one end of the house and the heater at the other, and we've got weird air currents blowing every which way.

legalcorrection 4y ago
- Shared404 4y ago
  9/11 was a matter of months after I was born. I watched my parents struggle to provide during 2008. We have been at war for the entirety of my time being sentient. It's been 12 years since we've had a year with "only" one mass shooting. I watched my siblings and friends miss out on 50%+ of their high school experience - due to a plague that has killed 1,000,000+ in the US alone. A mob stormed the capital building. We've spent the last several months closer to nuclear war than we have been since the cold war. On top of all that, we're stuck in a two party system where one does nothing, and one is actively malicious, and has the Supreme Court on the verge of tearing down a ruling which has been the basis of a massive number of other extremely important rulings. Don't tell me everything is fine.
  - abduhl 4y ago
  - Shared404 4y ago
    To the sibling to this, who presumably won't see it. > So you don’t remember 9/11 Correct, I don't remember the actual event. Just observed the trauma and fear that it inflicted, as most people of voting age at the time rallied to work together and... decrease our rights and blow up brown people. And the terror, on everyone's face when they talked about it. The videos in school where we watched clips of it happen, again and again, each year. So no, I don't remember it live, but that was in response to the "you've _lived_ through" portion of the above comment, or I would've skipped it anyways. > and were being raised in a two parent household during the housing crash Ha. I'm not going into detail here on that aspect of my life, but you're laughable here. > while a “war” (actually an occupation of two countries) you were totally disconnected from went on overseas? Legally still a war, resulting in perpetuation of PATRIOT et al. > And you were going to school all through this after when school shootings actually shocked the nation? "Haha, your generation and everyone else has become desensitized to the fact that every few months some lunatic shoots up a school/nightclub/party/$EVENT" ... yes, that's literally the point. > And you still didn’t learn that it’s spelled Capitol? That one's on me. Guess I shouldn't HN late at night after work/school. > And you think that we’re closer to nuclear war now than we were in the 00s and 90s (sorry, that’s unfair: you don’t even remember the 90s)? Based on my analysis of everyone's reactions around me? Yes. Based on the fact that there's a cancer-ridden egomaniac in charge of one of the worlds largest nuclear arsenals, and he seems determined to win at all costs? Yes. If I'm wrong I'd love to be corrected, but the only evidence you've provided are ad hominem attacks. > All while living in an era of expanded “human rights” from the very political establishments that you apparently now think are going to destroy society? /me facepalms That's the point. That's the freaking point. People made progress, and now there are people in positions of power actively trying to undo said progress. I have listened to some of these talking heads call me a demon, ask "when do we start using the guns?", say I deserve to die. And yet they keep getting more powerful. > Sorry, but your generation has never known adversity until 2020 and you grew up in one of the most peaceful times in human history. You’re part of the touchscreen generation. You’re a Zoomer. Even your generation’s name is soft. Ad hominem, [citation required], ad hominem, ad hominem. > The “once in a lifetime” events you hear about are clickbait. Tell me, was 9/11 not once in a lifetime? (again, remember that this was in response to events that people my age and older have lived through). Has Covid not been "reasonably" described as "once in a lifetime"? I know a lot of people described the 2008 recession as "once in a lifetime"? Was the mob on Jan 6 not "Once in a lifetime"? Would the Ukraine war not have qualified as "once in a lifetime" two decades ago? People have finally stopped using the term except as a "lol, yet another 'once in a lifetime' experience". The point is as much when my generation is coming of age as when we're raised. Half of us see no possible way to improve our standard of living - self improvement is hard when you need two or three full time jobs to survive.
- Apocryphon 4y ago
  What metrics are you even looking at to make such a statement The Great Depression happened during the interwar period.
  - deleted 4y ago
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misslibby 4y ago
Except you haven't really lived through anything serious at all, compared to previous generations. I find that kind of notion rather embarrassing.

Hextinium 4y ago

(I mentor highschool students) I have seen it a lot more of "why even try because our quality of life is going into the toilet" and less of "we are all going to die"