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Start your own journal? It doesn't necessarily matter that citations to it won't be tracked in Scopus or whatever when it's first launched. Even the gatekept

Start your own journal? It doesn't necessarily matter that citations to it won't be tracked in Scopus or whatever when it's first launched. Even the gatekept academic journals aren't automatically accepted into citation databases and academic search engines, it usually takes several years after they're launched to be fully accepted. Or discard the journal framework entirely—as long as people who are interested in the work can find the work, it's fine. Edit: One of the most important papers in fracture mechanics was published in a campus newsletter. The publication venue doesn't matter that much.

seydor 4y ago
yeah machine learning was not the best example because it does not depend on journal prestige, but pretty much everything else is the publication venue matters very much in most fields. it is rare exception when something is published elsewhere. the bulk of papers need to make it to goodish journals to be ever seen and considered when deciding about funding. Open access misses the target because it only replaces the publishing part, not the prestige part.
- workingon 4y ago
  Are you a late career researcher by chance? Your comments feel like how things used to be done. I think the most important thing to getting your paper read now (other than being in a nature level journal) is being indexed on google scholar.
rsfern 4y ago
> One of the most important papers in fracture mechanics was published in a campus newsletter. The publication venue doesn't matter that much. I’d be very interested in a link, that sounds cool! One of the more important contributions in grain growth theory (crystalline materials, not food) is a short comment by John von Neumann, where I guess he attended a conference talk and just came up with this elegant topological theory right there. https://u.math.biu.ac.il/~lazarem/von_Neumann_paper.pdf https://u.math.biu.ac.il/~lazarem/von_Neumann_paper.pdf
- jpeloquin 4y ago
  > I’d be very interested in a link, that sounds cool! Paris' Law, which predicts fatigue crack growth rate, was published in "The Trend in Engineering", which is the University of Washington College of Engineering alumni newsletter. “Though Paris’s ideas presented a way to quantify and predict structural integrity, his approach was considered unconventional, and none of the leading journals published it. So, in January 1961, after leaving the UW to return to Lehigh for his Ph.D., Paris published his paper, ‘A Rational Analytic Theory of Fatigue,’ in The Trend.” https://www.engr.washington.edu/news/article/2021-05-24/pariss-law-celebrates-60-years https://www.engr.washington.edu/news/article/2021-05-24/pari... https://www.engr.washington.edu/news/trend https://www.engr.washington.edu/news/trend

seydor 4y ago

yeah machine learning was not the best example because it does not depend on journal prestige, but pretty much everything else is the publication venue matters very much in most fields. it is rare exception when something is published elsewhere. the bulk of papers need to make it to goodish journals to be ever seen and considered when deciding about funding. Open access misses the target because it only replaces the publishing part, not the prestige part.

workingon 4y ago
Are you a late career researcher by chance? Your comments feel like how things used to be done. I think the most important thing to getting your paper read now (other than being in a nature level journal) is being indexed on google scholar.

rsfern 4y ago

> One of the most important papers in fracture mechanics was published in a campus newsletter. The publication venue doesn't matter that much. I’d be very interested in a link, that sounds cool! One of the more important contributions in grain growth theory (crystalline materials, not food) is a short comment by John von Neumann, where I guess he attended a conference talk and just came up with this elegant topological theory right there. https://u.math.biu.ac.il/~lazarem/von_Neumann_paper.pdf https://u.math.biu.ac.il/~lazarem/von_Neumann_paper.pdf

jpeloquin 4y ago
> I’d be very interested in a link, that sounds cool! Paris' Law, which predicts fatigue crack growth rate, was published in "The Trend in Engineering", which is the University of Washington College of Engineering alumni newsletter. “Though Paris’s ideas presented a way to quantify and predict structural integrity, his approach was considered unconventional, and none of the leading journals published it. So, in January 1961, after leaving the UW to return to Lehigh for his Ph.D., Paris published his paper, ‘A Rational Analytic Theory of Fatigue,’ in The Trend.” https://www.engr.washington.edu/news/article/2021-05-24/pariss-law-celebrates-60-years https://www.engr.washington.edu/news/article/2021-05-24/pari... https://www.engr.washington.edu/news/trend https://www.engr.washington.edu/news/trend