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> Unfortunate, but the only way it's sustainable. Businesses throughout history have been sustainable without needing to ban people at random with AI. This AI

> Unfortunate, but the only way it's sustainable. Businesses throughout history have been sustainable without needing to ban people at random with AI. This AI hell is a new phenomenon in the past 10 years and it's purely driven by cost-cutting.

sofixa 4y ago
Businesses throughout history haven't had to deal with anonymous global customer bases that could be automated.
Avamander 4y ago
> Businesses throughout history have been sustainable without needing to ban people at random with AI. When the cost of abuse lowers, so must the cost of defense. So of course cost-cutting has to happen. Otherwise it's going to be a financial DoS. All that is though only if you want services to have free tiers. If you're willing to pay for everything then sure, it becomes easier. I'm actually quite certain one will encounter much less "AI" when stuff is actually being paid for.
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- tyingq 4y ago
  Then they should automate a way for the domain owner to transfer the domain out when they decide they don't want your business. There's no reasonable excuse to hold a domain hostage. Their registrar is also not free.
- ntoskrnl 4y ago
  You do have a point about the free tiers. I try to pay for things where I can, for example I'm a happy Fastmail user (and you should be too!) But paying for things is still no guarantee, see also: the OP. Google and Discord are both infamous for this. They treat paying users and free users the same. eBay charges for their service too, and I had a ~15 year old account banned. Why? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ If you've been collecting my money for the past 15 years, can't you spare 5 minutes to sanity check your AI? I guess besides free users, the other exception is payment processors. I don't envy Stripe or PayPal.
015a 4y ago
Businesses in the past generally did not have hundreds of millions of people actively using their services 24 hours a day. This was rare even a decade ago.

sofixa 4y ago

Businesses throughout history haven't had to deal with anonymous global customer bases that could be automated.

Avamander 4y ago

> Businesses throughout history have been sustainable without needing to ban people at random with AI. When the cost of abuse lowers, so must the cost of defense. So of course cost-cutting has to happen. Otherwise it's going to be a financial DoS. All that is though only if you want services to have free tiers. If you're willing to pay for everything then sure, it becomes easier. I'm actually quite certain one will encounter much less "AI" when stuff is actually being paid for.

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tyingq 4y ago
Then they should automate a way for the domain owner to transfer the domain out when they decide they don't want your business. There's no reasonable excuse to hold a domain hostage. Their registrar is also not free.
ntoskrnl 4y ago
You do have a point about the free tiers. I try to pay for things where I can, for example I'm a happy Fastmail user (and you should be too!) But paying for things is still no guarantee, see also: the OP. Google and Discord are both infamous for this. They treat paying users and free users the same. eBay charges for their service too, and I had a ~15 year old account banned. Why? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ If you've been collecting my money for the past 15 years, can't you spare 5 minutes to sanity check your AI? I guess besides free users, the other exception is payment processors. I don't envy Stripe or PayPal.

015a 4y ago

Businesses in the past generally did not have hundreds of millions of people actively using their services 24 hours a day. This was rare even a decade ago.