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I know this sounds very cynical, but there's something funny about a company doing this automated trust and safety with zero recourse spiel while being entirely
by sascha_sl 4y ago
I know this sounds very cynical, but there's something funny about a company doing this automated trust and safety with zero recourse spiel while being entirely okay with hosting sites where people are bullied into suicide because we can't just deny service to technically legal websites as a pseudo public utility.
Pick a lane.
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- cookiengineer 4y ago^ kinda right, you know. As long as kiwifarms and others are hosted behind cloudflare, this statement is true.
- pessimizer 4y agoGood point, but fraud and theft are different than being unpleasant or cruel.
- viraptor 4y agoI'd imagine both fall under "trust and safety". And let's not water it down - targeted harassment is not "being unpleasant".
- izzydata 4y agoBoth might be considered morally wrong, but only one seems illegal.
- viraptor 4y agoI assure you, targeted persistent harassment is in fact not legal in most countries. With caveats for public figures and failing enforcement.
- Vecr 4y agoWhat do you mean by "most countries"? The only country that matters is the US.
- viraptor 4y agoAnd that one is a trivial search and click away: https://kellywarnerlaw.com/online-harassment-laws-united-states https://kellywarnerlaw.com/online-harassment-laws-united-sta... "most countries" was added for extra context.
- sascha_sl 4y agoUndoubtedly. But if you go the length to defend the morally indefensible purely though legality because you consider yourself as part of the commons somehow, a sort of neutral carrier maybe you should extend that principle to your appeal process and not make it an intransparent kafkaesque nightmare you can only resolve by getting enough people on Hacker News angry.