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A new implementation of the same thing, now on a different platform. Is it just me or does it seem like there are certain places where there is little innovati
by mistermann 4y ago
A new implementation of the same thing, now on a different platform.
Is it just me or does it seem like there are certain places where there is little innovation?
- 0des 4y agoWe must return to AIM.
- phoe-krk 4y agoYou can only reinvent text chat in so many ways before you converge to the de-facto standard most people are using nowadays.
- mistermann 4y agoIf the goal is simple text chat (communication that uses text) - but text can be used in a wide variety of ways! If some of the many who have reimplemented the same thing on a new platform instead set out to create something new, maybe something new would appear on the scene.
- phoe-krk 4y ago> If some of the many who have reimplemented the same thing on a new platform instead set out to create something new, maybe something new would appear on the scene. They do, and novelties do appear. But then they usually fail to gain traction because they require users to migrate to them. Hence, interoperability wins in the long run.
- mistermann 4y agoCan you think of any particularly impressive and innovative text-related communication platforms (ruling out impressive ones like Zoom that aren't textually innovative) that have been released in the last 5 years?
- ocdtrekkie 4y agoI'd argue basic chat functionality is a solved problem, and if Rocket.Chat deprecates their need to build and support that, they can focus entirely on value add/innovation.
- 0des 4y agoI wonder how this will effect Riot, now Element
- woojoo666 4y agoThere are multiple chat clients that support Matrix already [1], Element is just one of them. Separation of concerns is a good thing as products mature [1]: https://matrix.org/clients/ https://matrix.org/clients/
- 0des 4y agoThe question was due to the tight relationship between the two, not due to a misunderstanding. Im a daily user of Matrix, many clients.
- woojoo666 4y agoI see, my mistake. The coupling is definitely tight. I think the developers across Matrix and Element are largely the same too right? Ideally I would hope that the Matrix team can focus on the protocol, but I can see why they needed to build Element as a way to sell the protocol to the masses. But perhaps now that we have fully-featured front-ends like Rocket chat joining in, the Matrix team can dedicate more of them time to the protocol
- ocdtrekkie 4y agoI suspect the market is different enough to matter. Rocket.Chat caters heavily to the Slack/Teams-type business chat. Federation to it likely often means federating with partner businesses also using Rocket.Chat. Element targets individuals participating largely in public chat rooms, I suspect it's design will remain significantly different for that reason. Different apps with different purposes, but compatible.