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Is that new? I've seen 20+ percent in dispensaries for years. (Only in USA, in AMS the dispensaries would share the name of the strain, maybe how much weed wen

Is that new? I've seen 20+ percent in dispensaries for years. (Only in USA, in AMS the dispensaries would share the name of the strain, maybe how much weed went into an edible, but precise information even on just "THC percent" was not given. OTOH they were EXTREMELY nice, and gave me some basic heuristics. Ex: apparently more than a half gram in a joint for one person is extremely unusual, putting aside specifics. Also I think it's a false meme that folks use tobacco and weed together, sine in many jurisdictions such as PA they haven't rewritten laws on paraphenalia properly... see here: You could have legal weed but be hit with a misdemeanor is you use a pipe to consume less and get the same effect. That's not how you do thing if you want people to make healthy decisions, it's how you do things if you're using the governent as an extension of your cartel to extract money from the poor. https://norml.org/laws/pennsylvania-penalties-2/ https://norml.org/laws/pennsylvania-penalties-2/ (Sorry I edited this post, but often directly after posting I get the "Aha!" moment[1] of what I should have said. I apologize.) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aha_moment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aha_moment

h2odragon 4y ago
The trick here isn't the final finished content, but that it's increased because of their virus from the base plant's "normal" level. I have reservations about what numbers like "25% THC" mean in these contexts; there can be a long distance between a homogenized lab sample and what's in your sack, even if everything in between is honest and punctiliously documented.
pzone 4y ago
It’s a 20% increase. Like 20% -> 24%.
- dontbenebby 4y ago
  My bad!!
rascul 4y ago
> Ex: apparently more than a half gram in a joint for one person is extremely unusual, putting aside specifics. Seems a bit light, but I haven't rolled any joints for awhile so I could be off. > Also I think it's a false meme that folks use tobacco and weed together, I've rarely seen them used together, such as mixed together in a joint. It does seem common enough to smoke a tobacco cigarette at the same time, or immediately before or after. That said, I make my own (tobacco) cigarettes and I have on a few occasions mixed some cannabis in with it. The tobacco smell overpowers the cannabis smell and nobody around me could tell it wasn't a regular cigarette.
- rascul 4y ago
  Too late to edit, but based on a sibling comment, it may make a difference that I'm in the USA.
nickfromseattle 4y ago
> Also I think it's a false meme that folks use tobacco and weed together I believe this is mostly a European thing. Out in Europe tobacco + weed rolled in a joint appears to be the default way to consume cannabis. My working theory is that because Europeans generally tend to live in smaller apartments, and Americans generally tend to live in larger houses, it's significantly harder for the youth in Europe to hide paraphernalia (pipes/bongs) from their parents.
- corazortez 4y ago
  My anecdotal reasoning is weed outside of states is generally of a lower quality and expensive, and doesn’t burn evenly. Tobacco helps with that and also created a unique high combining nicotine with THC.
- yakak 4y ago
  I was told by London youth in the 90's that the reason they mixed in this fashion is that weed in Europe was often only available processed into hash-hish to be compact for micro-smugglers so it was easier to have a consistent level with very inconsistent supply potency by varying the amount of tobacco.
- PaulHoule 4y ago
  There is a culture of people in the US who hollow out Phillies cigars and roll blunts that have some tobacco in them.
- dontbenebby 4y ago
  >I believe this is mostly a European thing. Out in Europe tobacco + weed rolled in a joint appears to be the default way to consume cannabis. I wouldn't want to speak too confidently, I was very straight edge until about 21, and I really only smoked weed in the EU either in a cafe in NL, or once or twice around Berlin, and I don't want to dicuss the latter here. >My working theory is that because Europeans generally tend to live in smaller apartments Weird. Does it actually overpower the smell? I always thought it's just two of them in parallel but I'm not super... smell sensitive... if it's not aritficial (eg a wave of axe body spray or expensive French (or whatever) perfume that makes me want to change bus seats). >Americans generally tend to live in larger houses Oh you're right on the house thing, you'd be amazed how hard it is to find a decent studio sized condo in a building full of people who actually act like neighbors in this country. (I'm American.) Meanwhile, you'll go slowly insane keeping it clean, maybe even have respiratory issues as the dust and grime builds up. And then the property taxes chip away at your savings like poker blinds depleting your stack as someone who walked into the casino with a massive bankroll sits and waits for their coveted pocket aces. >it's significantly harder for the youth in Europe to hide paraphernalia (pipes/bongs) from their parents. I'd have thought you'd want folks smoking weed since it seems to not get into stuff as much... you can ventilate and it won't seep into the room like tobacco smoke will. Also if you're *not an adult*, maybe it's *good* you have to hide it from your parents -- it fucks with your brain. TRUST ME. I've met enough people before and after their first toke, memorized the ages and stuff. If you're a grown adult, and can't go outside, I'd suggest using cones -- you don't need to learn to roll, and you can ash into a cup with a bit of water in the bottom, then you just can dispose of that out on a walk. (Well, except in places like England where trash cans are rarer than... some animal that is rare.) Absent external stresses around housing and income, I suspect if folks here swapped alcohol for cannabis a lot less fights and other bad things would happen. I couldn't write a reply like this as quickly I am if I'd gotten drunk last night. (I didn't get high either, but my allergies are terrible and I had too much salt so I feel a bit off.) Also since I'm giving out folk advice, I want to hedge what I'm saying by pointing out that in my experience a lot of urban legends around weed are false, it can ABSOLUTEY cause depersonalization[1] and if you're not in the right set and setting, you'll freak out bad. I'm sorry if the above is oversharing/mansplaining/wall-of-texting, but I simply cannot allow folks to keep making the same bad decisions generation after generation -- I'm tired of legal marijuana being like fusion power plants from Simcity 2000 they'd talk about on Slashdot or whatever, always two-ish years away, so I gotta write walls of text like this :-) TL;DR: Thanks sincerely for your reply, use cones, don't smoke young, be mindful of depersonalization. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depersonalization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depersonalization
Clubber 4y ago
>I think it's a false meme that folks use tobacco and weed together You're describing a blunt; pot wrapped in cigar (tobacco) wrapper, which was quite popular way back when, but not sure if it is anymore.
- xsmasher 4y ago
  It is still incredibly popular judging by the amount of "cigarillo" packaging littering in my neighborhood; and based on this joke from "Atlanta" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNXN7jbY7Qk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNXN7jbY7Qk

h2odragon 4y ago

The trick here isn't the final finished content, but that it's increased because of their virus from the base plant's "normal" level. I have reservations about what numbers like "25% THC" mean in these contexts; there can be a long distance between a homogenized lab sample and what's in your sack, even if everything in between is honest and punctiliously documented.

pzone 4y ago

It’s a 20% increase. Like 20% -> 24%.

dontbenebby 4y ago
My bad!!

rascul 4y ago

> Ex: apparently more than a half gram in a joint for one person is extremely unusual, putting aside specifics. Seems a bit light, but I haven't rolled any joints for awhile so I could be off. > Also I think it's a false meme that folks use tobacco and weed together, I've rarely seen them used together, such as mixed together in a joint. It does seem common enough to smoke a tobacco cigarette at the same time, or immediately before or after. That said, I make my own (tobacco) cigarettes and I have on a few occasions mixed some cannabis in with it. The tobacco smell overpowers the cannabis smell and nobody around me could tell it wasn't a regular cigarette.

rascul 4y ago
Too late to edit, but based on a sibling comment, it may make a difference that I'm in the USA.

nickfromseattle 4y ago

> Also I think it's a false meme that folks use tobacco and weed together I believe this is mostly a European thing. Out in Europe tobacco + weed rolled in a joint appears to be the default way to consume cannabis. My working theory is that because Europeans generally tend to live in smaller apartments, and Americans generally tend to live in larger houses, it's significantly harder for the youth in Europe to hide paraphernalia (pipes/bongs) from their parents.

corazortez 4y ago
My anecdotal reasoning is weed outside of states is generally of a lower quality and expensive, and doesn’t burn evenly. Tobacco helps with that and also created a unique high combining nicotine with THC.
yakak 4y ago
I was told by London youth in the 90's that the reason they mixed in this fashion is that weed in Europe was often only available processed into hash-hish to be compact for micro-smugglers so it was easier to have a consistent level with very inconsistent supply potency by varying the amount of tobacco.
PaulHoule 4y ago
There is a culture of people in the US who hollow out Phillies cigars and roll blunts that have some tobacco in them.
dontbenebby 4y ago
>I believe this is mostly a European thing. Out in Europe tobacco + weed rolled in a joint appears to be the default way to consume cannabis. I wouldn't want to speak too confidently, I was very straight edge until about 21, and I really only smoked weed in the EU either in a cafe in NL, or once or twice around Berlin, and I don't want to dicuss the latter here. >My working theory is that because Europeans generally tend to live in smaller apartments Weird. Does it actually overpower the smell? I always thought it's just two of them in parallel but I'm not super... smell sensitive... if it's not aritficial (eg a wave of axe body spray or expensive French (or whatever) perfume that makes me want to change bus seats). >Americans generally tend to live in larger houses Oh you're right on the house thing, you'd be amazed how hard it is to find a decent studio sized condo in a building full of people who actually act like neighbors in this country. (I'm American.) Meanwhile, you'll go slowly insane keeping it clean, maybe even have respiratory issues as the dust and grime builds up. And then the property taxes chip away at your savings like poker blinds depleting your stack as someone who walked into the casino with a massive bankroll sits and waits for their coveted pocket aces. >it's significantly harder for the youth in Europe to hide paraphernalia (pipes/bongs) from their parents. I'd have thought you'd want folks smoking weed since it seems to not get into stuff as much... you can ventilate and it won't seep into the room like tobacco smoke will. Also if you're *not an adult*, maybe it's *good* you have to hide it from your parents -- it fucks with your brain. TRUST ME. I've met enough people before and after their first toke, memorized the ages and stuff. If you're a grown adult, and can't go outside, I'd suggest using cones -- you don't need to learn to roll, and you can ash into a cup with a bit of water in the bottom, then you just can dispose of that out on a walk. (Well, except in places like England where trash cans are rarer than... some animal that is rare.) Absent external stresses around housing and income, I suspect if folks here swapped alcohol for cannabis a lot less fights and other bad things would happen. I couldn't write a reply like this as quickly I am if I'd gotten drunk last night. (I didn't get high either, but my allergies are terrible and I had too much salt so I feel a bit off.) Also since I'm giving out folk advice, I want to hedge what I'm saying by pointing out that in my experience a lot of urban legends around weed are false, it can ABSOLUTEY cause depersonalization[1] and if you're not in the right set and setting, you'll freak out bad. I'm sorry if the above is oversharing/mansplaining/wall-of-texting, but I simply cannot allow folks to keep making the same bad decisions generation after generation -- I'm tired of legal marijuana being like fusion power plants from Simcity 2000 they'd talk about on Slashdot or whatever, always two-ish years away, so I gotta write walls of text like this :-) TL;DR: Thanks sincerely for your reply, use cones, don't smoke young, be mindful of depersonalization. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depersonalization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depersonalization

Clubber 4y ago

>I think it's a false meme that folks use tobacco and weed together You're describing a blunt; pot wrapped in cigar (tobacco) wrapper, which was quite popular way back when, but not sure if it is anymore.

xsmasher 4y ago
It is still incredibly popular judging by the amount of "cigarillo" packaging littering in my neighborhood; and based on this joke from "Atlanta" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNXN7jbY7Qk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNXN7jbY7Qk