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Introducing NonHackerNews.com

35 points by inglorian 18y ago

shadytrees 18y ago
I'm noticing that some of the comments are one-worded or just off-topic drivel. Either there should be a stringent culture of down-modding those comments or moderators should actively communicate with those users and discourage that behavior. It's better to set the bar a little high at the beginning than too low since the level of discourse will inevitably decrease as more people join.
- mattmaroon 18y ago
  In general, we'll moderate comments only for civility. They have up and down arrows, so I expect the community to take care of quality that way. That often seems to be the case here, where a comment will be buried under an avalanche of downvotes.
  - palish 18y ago
    To an extent. I've seen comments on HN actively killed by the editors. (To see 'em, turn on "showdead".) So it's probably worth it to delete content that would repel the type of clientele you'd like to attract.
    - jrockway 18y ago
      Exactly. It's kind of annoying to see that omniscient overlords are censoring people's comments -- but the people being censored get the idea that their comments aren't welcome and then they either shape up or go away. HN has stayed pretty readable as the once-enjoyable Reddit has become the biggest cesspool of stupidity I've ever had the misfortune of reading. (Can you guess by my tone that I used to really love Reddit but it's just not good anymore? It makes me sad.)
  - jrockway 18y ago
    I expect the community to take care of quality that way Have you seen Reddit? This doesn't work.
    - mattmaroon 18y ago
      Does Reddit moderate for civility? I was under the impression that they didn't moderate at all.
kmnb 18y ago
This is it. Stupid dotcom bubble has begun again. This time, when a social networking site took off, others will try to make social networking creating a social networking, hence: myspace/facebook/whatever --> ning. digg/reddit --> slinkset. The world is in need of fresh ideas!
- mattmaroon 18y ago
  Slinkset is maybe not an original idea (corank is pretty similar and was around first) but it's a good one and very well-implemented. You don't make money by being original. You make it by being good. Allowing people to start their own sites trivially (not counting some goofy domain issues I had, I think NHN took me 10 minutes or so to set up) is a good idea, and one that has been popular since before the first bubble.
  - pius 18y ago
    This is my first time actually checking out Slinkset . . . pretty cool app. Do they have any paid features yet? What's their business model?
    - pius 18y ago
      Nevermind: for the time being Slinkset is offering its hosting service free of charge, with plans to introduce a fixed fee in the future. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/14/y-combinators-slinkset-launches-hosted-reddits-for-the-masses/ http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/14/y-combinators-slinkset-...
      - fallentimes 18y ago
        As an owner of a handful of slinkset sites, I'd be more than happy to pay a fee for additional features/options. It's been a huge hit for us.
      - brett 18y ago
        Precisely. We're working on premium features.
fallentimes 18y ago
This should be combined with nickb's new mogul. While I've enjoyed reading both sites, we don't need two HN splinters.
josefresco 18y ago
Matt, most of the stories on NonHackerNews.com could be on HN with no issues. So I don't get it. Why do you want to splinter a community you've helped build and maintain one of the top accounts with? Why name it NonHackerNews and not RandomSocialNews.com or LightlyModeratedSocialDiscussion.com? I don't see what this new site has to do with HN at all (besides you) It's like I've stumbled upon bizaro Friday.
iuguy 18y ago
As well as NonHackerNews.com, there's some other slinkset sites that might be worth visiting. Infosec Update - http://news.mandalorian.com http://news.mandalorian.com is an Information Security Slinkset-powered site. Just Hack It - http://www.justhackit.com http://www.justhackit.com is a good example of a general site. iPhone Lockergnome - http://iphone.lockergnome.com/ http://iphone.lockergnome.com/ is a good example of slinkset's RSS feed in use.
raganwald 18y ago
... rather than complain, I decided to do something about it and ... Now this is an example I will try to follow.

35 points by inglorian 18y ago

I'm noticing that some of the comments are one-worded or just off-topic drivel. Either there should be a stringent culture of down-modding those comments or moderators should actively communicate with those users and discourage that behavior. It's better to set the bar a little high at the beginning than too low since the level of discourse will inevitably decrease as more people join.

mattmaroon 18y ago
In general, we'll moderate comments only for civility. They have up and down arrows, so I expect the community to take care of quality that way. That often seems to be the case here, where a comment will be buried under an avalanche of downvotes.
- palish 18y ago
  To an extent. I've seen comments on HN actively killed by the editors. (To see 'em, turn on "showdead".) So it's probably worth it to delete content that would repel the type of clientele you'd like to attract.
  - jrockway 18y ago
    Exactly. It's kind of annoying to see that omniscient overlords are censoring people's comments -- but the people being censored get the idea that their comments aren't welcome and then they either shape up or go away. HN has stayed pretty readable as the once-enjoyable Reddit has become the biggest cesspool of stupidity I've ever had the misfortune of reading. (Can you guess by my tone that I used to really love Reddit but it's just not good anymore? It makes me sad.)
- jrockway 18y ago
  I expect the community to take care of quality that way Have you seen Reddit? This doesn't work.
  - mattmaroon 18y ago
    Does Reddit moderate for civility? I was under the impression that they didn't moderate at all.

kmnb 18y ago

This is it. Stupid dotcom bubble has begun again. This time, when a social networking site took off, others will try to make social networking creating a social networking, hence: myspace/facebook/whatever --> ning. digg/reddit --> slinkset. The world is in need of fresh ideas!

mattmaroon 18y ago
Slinkset is maybe not an original idea (corank is pretty similar and was around first) but it's a good one and very well-implemented. You don't make money by being original. You make it by being good. Allowing people to start their own sites trivially (not counting some goofy domain issues I had, I think NHN took me 10 minutes or so to set up) is a good idea, and one that has been popular since before the first bubble.
- pius 18y ago
  This is my first time actually checking out Slinkset . . . pretty cool app. Do they have any paid features yet? What's their business model?
  - pius 18y ago
    Nevermind: for the time being Slinkset is offering its hosting service free of charge, with plans to introduce a fixed fee in the future. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/14/y-combinators-slinkset-launches-hosted-reddits-for-the-masses/ http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/14/y-combinators-slinkset-...
    - fallentimes 18y ago
      As an owner of a handful of slinkset sites, I'd be more than happy to pay a fee for additional features/options. It's been a huge hit for us.
    - brett 18y ago
      Precisely. We're working on premium features.

fallentimes 18y ago

This should be combined with nickb's new mogul. While I've enjoyed reading both sites, we don't need two HN splinters.

josefresco 18y ago

Matt, most of the stories on NonHackerNews.com could be on HN with no issues. So I don't get it. Why do you want to splinter a community you've helped build and maintain one of the top accounts with? Why name it NonHackerNews and not RandomSocialNews.com or LightlyModeratedSocialDiscussion.com? I don't see what this new site has to do with HN at all (besides you) It's like I've stumbled upon bizaro Friday.

iuguy 18y ago

As well as NonHackerNews.com, there's some other slinkset sites that might be worth visiting. Infosec Update - http://news.mandalorian.com http://news.mandalorian.com is an Information Security Slinkset-powered site. Just Hack It - http://www.justhackit.com http://www.justhackit.com is a good example of a general site. iPhone Lockergnome - http://iphone.lockergnome.com/ http://iphone.lockergnome.com/ is a good example of slinkset's RSS feed in use.

raganwald 18y ago

... rather than complain, I decided to do something about it and ... Now this is an example I will try to follow.