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One mans lackluster features is another mans streamlined interface. MacOS at least goes out of your way most of the time. Windows interrupts you regularly for s

by bzzzt 4y ago

One mans lackluster features is another mans streamlined interface. MacOS at least goes out of your way most of the time. Windows interrupts you regularly for stuff that's not important to whatever you're doing. Combined with third-party applications that are noisy as heck to make sure you don't forget you bought/installed them (especially AV scanners, but it seems like every app wants a place in your system tray and has it's own updater and wants your attention when it updates). But if Windows does what you need and doesn't cause you friction just use it instead of crapping on macOS.

Lapsa 4y ago
not like my opinion matters much, but I feel that Apple's stuff was great in year 2010. not so much nowadays. I don't know what would be a reason to favor macOS over Linux
- landmass 4y ago
  When it it runs, Linux is great, but when something breaks fixing it can be labor intensive. When something on Mac stops working a call to Mac support will usually fix it in a couple of hours. That said, I agree with your 2010 estimate of Mac software peaking in 2010. Mac laptop hardware is still better than Linux laptop hardware. As someone who's considering my first Linux laptop, I need to balance the inconveniences of Linux hardware now with the likely fact I can probably use that laptop significantly longer than current Mac. Somebody has to pay for all those convenient Mac support folks.
  - hollandheese 4y ago
    >Mac laptop hardware is still better than Linux laptop hardware. As someone who's considering my first Linux laptop, I need to balance the inconveniences of Linux hardware now with the likely fact I can probably use that laptop significantly longer than current Mac. Somebody has to pay for all those convenient Mac support folks. The funny thing about that is that it's only with the Apple Silicon Macs that's true. The 2016-2020 Intel MacBooks were a garbage fire.
    - kaba0 4y ago
      The goddamn last intel MacBook Pro manages to legit burn my hand if I don’t use a program that forces the vents on.. Like sure, I do hate the sound of a vent but when I am actively using a laptop for writing or something and it is scorching hot then please choose the annoying noise over boiling my skin. Though I feel these things are more like Apple assuming that an intel proc is the same as an M1 that hardly heats up.
iLoveOncall 4y ago
> Windows interrupts you regularly for stuff that's not important to whatever you're doing. It has literally never happened to me. However it happens weekly on Mac, where I will lose the focus of my window and be prompted for an update.
- dmitriid 4y ago
  > where I will lose the focus of my window and be prompted for an update. That you can disable in System Preferences. On Windows Home, for example, updates cannot be disabled, and the OS will install them even if this means ruining everything you're doing.
- cassianoleal 4y ago
  macOS updates are notified using the native notification subsystem. It's inobtrusive and definitely does not take the focus away from app windows.
- arprocter 4y ago
  I discovered recently you can set notifications on macOS to 'do not disturb' System Preferences -> Notifications -> Do Not Disturb I set Turn On Do Not Disturb 'from 12:01AM to 11:59PM'
bmitc 4y ago
> One mans lackluster features is another mans streamlined interface. MacOS at least goes out of your way most of the time. That is really just not true. I don't even think one could consider it an opinion. Irregardless of what Windows does, macOS constantly gets in your way. Try to rename iTunes, because that's the only way to keep it from opening every time you connect your non-Apple Bluetooth headphones (there's a convoluted procedure to do so). Try to control the brightness or volume of an external monitor. You cannot. Even the monitor itself isn't as good as it is on Windows due to poor resolution and text handling on macOS, and a Macbook Pro with a discrete video card struggles to drive the monitor. External mice and keyboards are touch and go with macOS and reset settings nearly on a daily basis for me. Developer tools, such as asdf or others installed from Homebrew are incredibly finicky and often require workarounds depending on whatever macOS version you're on and whatever thing it decided to break. (For example, it's actually easier to get Erlang's observer running on WSL on Windows with the GUI interface than it is on macOS, which requires all sorts of hacks in Homebrew.) I don't know why Apple doesn't get the same hate as Windows, because my Macbook Pro constantly installs stuff all on its own. I get pinged by several apps to update through their own update mechanism on macOS.
- choko 4y ago
  The auto-launching of itunes when I get off a call using my Bluetooth headset is super annoying! If it weren't for the CLI Mac would be worthless for development. The only reason I have one is for work, and only because I'm not allowed to use my own hardware (which would be a laptop with debian).
  - bmitc 4y ago
    You can get rid of iTunes launching by renaming it. If I recall correctly, there are a bunch of possible workarounds but that's the one that definitely works if you don't care about iTunes. But it required getting IT approval for upgraded permissions and then a whole reboot into safe mode and change the name procedure using some setting or shell command (something like that). I think it was like two or three reboots to change the name of the iTunes application, but I don't recall the exact procedure. My CLI do you mean the Unix-like underlying system (like through Terminal, zsh, bash, etc.)? I enjoy WSL on Windows more because it's actually Linux and usually just works. The only trouble I have there sometimes is network related activities, as is usual for VM-like setups.
ChuckNorris89 4y ago
>Windows interrupts you regularly for stuff that's not important to whatever you're doing. Really not my current experience and I use W10 daily at work and W11 at home. Not saying it's a good OS, just saying that your statement is plain wrong. If certain (third party) apps are annoying then you can control notifications through the focus assist setting just like with any mobile OS.
- phendrenad2 4y ago
  Exactly. The only "interruptions" I get on my Windows machine are from my AV, and the lower-right-corner popup alerts don't steal focus from my current window.

by bzzzt 4y ago

Lapsa 4y ago

not like my opinion matters much, but I feel that Apple's stuff was great in year 2010. not so much nowadays. I don't know what would be a reason to favor macOS over Linux

landmass 4y ago
When it it runs, Linux is great, but when something breaks fixing it can be labor intensive. When something on Mac stops working a call to Mac support will usually fix it in a couple of hours. That said, I agree with your 2010 estimate of Mac software peaking in 2010. Mac laptop hardware is still better than Linux laptop hardware. As someone who's considering my first Linux laptop, I need to balance the inconveniences of Linux hardware now with the likely fact I can probably use that laptop significantly longer than current Mac. Somebody has to pay for all those convenient Mac support folks.
- hollandheese 4y ago
  >Mac laptop hardware is still better than Linux laptop hardware. As someone who's considering my first Linux laptop, I need to balance the inconveniences of Linux hardware now with the likely fact I can probably use that laptop significantly longer than current Mac. Somebody has to pay for all those convenient Mac support folks. The funny thing about that is that it's only with the Apple Silicon Macs that's true. The 2016-2020 Intel MacBooks were a garbage fire.
  - kaba0 4y ago
    The goddamn last intel MacBook Pro manages to legit burn my hand if I don’t use a program that forces the vents on.. Like sure, I do hate the sound of a vent but when I am actively using a laptop for writing or something and it is scorching hot then please choose the annoying noise over boiling my skin. Though I feel these things are more like Apple assuming that an intel proc is the same as an M1 that hardly heats up.

iLoveOncall 4y ago

> Windows interrupts you regularly for stuff that's not important to whatever you're doing. It has literally never happened to me. However it happens weekly on Mac, where I will lose the focus of my window and be prompted for an update.

dmitriid 4y ago
> where I will lose the focus of my window and be prompted for an update. That you can disable in System Preferences. On Windows Home, for example, updates cannot be disabled, and the OS will install them even if this means ruining everything you're doing.
cassianoleal 4y ago
macOS updates are notified using the native notification subsystem. It's inobtrusive and definitely does not take the focus away from app windows.
arprocter 4y ago
I discovered recently you can set notifications on macOS to 'do not disturb' System Preferences -> Notifications -> Do Not Disturb I set Turn On Do Not Disturb 'from 12:01AM to 11:59PM'

bmitc 4y ago

> One mans lackluster features is another mans streamlined interface. MacOS at least goes out of your way most of the time. That is really just not true. I don't even think one could consider it an opinion. Irregardless of what Windows does, macOS constantly gets in your way. Try to rename iTunes, because that's the only way to keep it from opening every time you connect your non-Apple Bluetooth headphones (there's a convoluted procedure to do so). Try to control the brightness or volume of an external monitor. You cannot. Even the monitor itself isn't as good as it is on Windows due to poor resolution and text handling on macOS, and a Macbook Pro with a discrete video card struggles to drive the monitor. External mice and keyboards are touch and go with macOS and reset settings nearly on a daily basis for me. Developer tools, such as asdf or others installed from Homebrew are incredibly finicky and often require workarounds depending on whatever macOS version you're on and whatever thing it decided to break. (For example, it's actually easier to get Erlang's observer running on WSL on Windows with the GUI interface than it is on macOS, which requires all sorts of hacks in Homebrew.) I don't know why Apple doesn't get the same hate as Windows, because my Macbook Pro constantly installs stuff all on its own. I get pinged by several apps to update through their own update mechanism on macOS.

choko 4y ago
The auto-launching of itunes when I get off a call using my Bluetooth headset is super annoying! If it weren't for the CLI Mac would be worthless for development. The only reason I have one is for work, and only because I'm not allowed to use my own hardware (which would be a laptop with debian).
- bmitc 4y ago
  You can get rid of iTunes launching by renaming it. If I recall correctly, there are a bunch of possible workarounds but that's the one that definitely works if you don't care about iTunes. But it required getting IT approval for upgraded permissions and then a whole reboot into safe mode and change the name procedure using some setting or shell command (something like that). I think it was like two or three reboots to change the name of the iTunes application, but I don't recall the exact procedure. My CLI do you mean the Unix-like underlying system (like through Terminal, zsh, bash, etc.)? I enjoy WSL on Windows more because it's actually Linux and usually just works. The only trouble I have there sometimes is network related activities, as is usual for VM-like setups.

ChuckNorris89 4y ago

>Windows interrupts you regularly for stuff that's not important to whatever you're doing. Really not my current experience and I use W10 daily at work and W11 at home. Not saying it's a good OS, just saying that your statement is plain wrong. If certain (third party) apps are annoying then you can control notifications through the focus assist setting just like with any mobile OS.

phendrenad2 4y ago
Exactly. The only "interruptions" I get on my Windows machine are from my AV, and the lower-right-corner popup alerts don't steal focus from my current window.