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I love how eveyone is pretending that these revelations are anything new. Everybody knew this was going on for years and choose to pretend nothing was going on.

I love how eveyone is pretending that these revelations are anything new. Everybody knew this was going on for years and choose to pretend nothing was going on. All our western, democratic values are just a pathetic distraction in the face of our endless greed.

baybal2 4y ago
cies 4y ago
Unless of course they need our tax money for the war machine, then all of a sudden it's "evil Putin invaded without proper cause" in your face 24/7. So you accept 40B is spend on a war, and not on fixing domestic problems. I dont see how this Ukraine crisis is so much different from the west's invasions of Vietnam, Cuba, Iraq 1&2, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and making Kosovo a sovereign state.
- phantomathkg 4y ago
  Many of the war you mentioned are approved by UN. So are you say UN is evil? For example Iraq 1 started due to Saddam Hussain invade Kuwait.
  - CyMonk 4y ago
    > For example Iraq 1 started due to Saddam Hussain invade Kuwait. ... but it didn't start when he invaded Iran. i wonder why?!? (rhetorical question ofc).
  - cies 4y ago
    Kuwait was drilling directionally into a Iraqi oil field. This has been kept from us in the news, but it is the real reason. Saddam wanted Kuwait to pay up. Kuwait did not so they got invaded. Exactly what the US needed to get in: more war, more oil contracts. And yes the UN is evil. But that's besides the point. What leverage do you think Iraq has in the UN, vs what the US has?
throwaway4good 4y ago
The reports/allegations are decades old. The reason why they are being promoted so heavily now is due to the changed relation between the US and China. In fact the US used to drone bomb Uyghurs in Afghanistan and detain them away in Guantanamo.
philipov 4y ago
This is explained in the article: In their numbers and variety, these documents put the debate over Chinese in a new context: They provide evidence that is impossible to ignore for politicians, business leaders and society in all countries that interact with China. Revelation is one thing, hard evidence is another.

baybal2 4y ago

cies 4y ago

Unless of course they need our tax money for the war machine, then all of a sudden it's "evil Putin invaded without proper cause" in your face 24/7. So you accept 40B is spend on a war, and not on fixing domestic problems. I dont see how this Ukraine crisis is so much different from the west's invasions of Vietnam, Cuba, Iraq 1&2, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and making Kosovo a sovereign state.

phantomathkg 4y ago
Many of the war you mentioned are approved by UN. So are you say UN is evil? For example Iraq 1 started due to Saddam Hussain invade Kuwait.
- CyMonk 4y ago
  > For example Iraq 1 started due to Saddam Hussain invade Kuwait. ... but it didn't start when he invaded Iran. i wonder why?!? (rhetorical question ofc).
- cies 4y ago
  Kuwait was drilling directionally into a Iraqi oil field. This has been kept from us in the news, but it is the real reason. Saddam wanted Kuwait to pay up. Kuwait did not so they got invaded. Exactly what the US needed to get in: more war, more oil contracts. And yes the UN is evil. But that's besides the point. What leverage do you think Iraq has in the UN, vs what the US has?

throwaway4good 4y ago

The reports/allegations are decades old. The reason why they are being promoted so heavily now is due to the changed relation between the US and China. In fact the US used to drone bomb Uyghurs in Afghanistan and detain them away in Guantanamo.

philipov 4y ago

This is explained in the article: In their numbers and variety, these documents put the debate over Chinese in a new context: They provide evidence that is impossible to ignore for politicians, business leaders and society in all countries that interact with China. Revelation is one thing, hard evidence is another.