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> (in each grant application, promotion application, evaluation application, salary complement application, grant/project request, paper submission). Each of th

> (in each grant application, promotion application, evaluation application, salary complement application, grant/project request, paper submission). Each of these has an acceptance rate, we are competing directly among other academics I mean they're often very high acceptance rates though. The funding agency we use has a 90% acceptance rate. Basically you have to have some idea of what you are doing and they will accept you. It isn't as extreme as you are making out. There are many opportunities. The main problem is that the opportunities are geographically constrained. I don't think there's a huge amount of competition for a given role, but the fact that it often requires uprooting your life (I moved from UK to Germany) is really bad

zamfi 4y ago
> The funding agency we use has a 90% acceptance rate. What? Wow. Please share?
- bowsamic 4y ago
  DFG
  - frankling_ 4y ago
    What funding programme are you thinking about? The most common type of project proposal is funded at much lower rates: https://www.dfg.de/en/dfg_profile/facts_figures/statistics/processing_times_success_rates/index.html https://www.dfg.de/en/dfg_profile/facts_figures/statistics/p...
light_hue_1 4y ago
> I mean they're often very high acceptance rates though. The funding agency we use has a 90% acceptance rate. Basically you have to have some idea of what you are doing and they will accept you. It isn't as extreme as you are making out. There are many opportunities. Not at all. You definitely aren't in the US. Success rates are low! The stated funding rates by the NSF are around 25%. Depending on the program, rates for NIH tend to be a lot lower. R01 success rates are below 20%. Keep in mind, you're competing with the best and most recognizable names every time. This skews success rates, as a new or average researcher (I mean average as in, the mean person, not as in "mediocre") your rates will be lower.
Al-Khwarizmi 4y ago
In my country the best grants tend to have acceptance rates in the 10%-20% range. There are other grants with around 50% rate but they are barely enough to not outright close a lab (you're lucky if you can get 30K/year from those, per research group, not per person). There are no grants that I know of with a 90% acceptance rate. And even if you compete for a 50% acceptance rate, which is relatively "easy", you are competing with another academics and the majority of them work on weekends.

zamfi 4y ago

> The funding agency we use has a 90% acceptance rate. What? Wow. Please share?

bowsamic 4y ago
DFG
- frankling_ 4y ago
  What funding programme are you thinking about? The most common type of project proposal is funded at much lower rates: https://www.dfg.de/en/dfg_profile/facts_figures/statistics/processing_times_success_rates/index.html https://www.dfg.de/en/dfg_profile/facts_figures/statistics/p...

light_hue_1 4y ago

> I mean they're often very high acceptance rates though. The funding agency we use has a 90% acceptance rate. Basically you have to have some idea of what you are doing and they will accept you. It isn't as extreme as you are making out. There are many opportunities. Not at all. You definitely aren't in the US. Success rates are low! The stated funding rates by the NSF are around 25%. Depending on the program, rates for NIH tend to be a lot lower. R01 success rates are below 20%. Keep in mind, you're competing with the best and most recognizable names every time. This skews success rates, as a new or average researcher (I mean average as in, the mean person, not as in "mediocre") your rates will be lower.

Al-Khwarizmi 4y ago

In my country the best grants tend to have acceptance rates in the 10%-20% range. There are other grants with around 50% rate but they are barely enough to not outright close a lab (you're lucky if you can get 30K/year from those, per research group, not per person). There are no grants that I know of with a 90% acceptance rate. And even if you compete for a 50% acceptance rate, which is relatively "easy", you are competing with another academics and the majority of them work on weekends.