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You are right it does not gaurantee correctness. Libraries can also provide unsafe or incorrect code. C++ lacks a package manager and a community mindset. So I

You are right it does not gaurantee correctness. Libraries can also provide unsafe or incorrect code. C++ lacks a package manager and a community mindset. So I trust c++ library's less than many modern programming languages... Rust makes it so you can do this yourself for most things. It's not always convenient but it's the best I've seen so far. I'm interested to see how automatic formal verification of rust code is going. Super interesting area, think a team at AWS is working on it, and a few other groups.

pjmlp 4y ago
Conan, vcpkg and NuGET already cover a lot of C++ workloads nowadays.
- oncewas 4y ago
  Yes there are several third party package managers, which is a pretty good smell that the situation is sticky at best. Out of the three my favorite is NuGET. Unfortunately the ecosystem last I checked anyway was weaker than say rusts' or go's(at the risk of comparing apples to oranges). Python also has multiple package managers, and the worst part of python when used appropriately is it's package managers and logical layout... Most modern programming languages have one package manager dedicated to the language, and for good reason imo. Part of the problem is, the c++ culture is kind of like the c culture, most people would rather write their own packages from scratch then leverage a community. I don't blame the languages, they were around before git was common. I feel like I am bashing c++... I don't mean too, it's a great language and it does have good packages(some I prefer over what is available in say Rust), but most projects I've seen not using visual c++ do the 1990s thing and don't use these tools. Maybe it's their age, never looked hard at "why", being honest.
  - pjmlp 4y ago
    Surely it is weaker if we are counting npm like quantity of packages. If on the other hand we are counting quality packages, all major ones are available.

pjmlp 4y ago

Conan, vcpkg and NuGET already cover a lot of C++ workloads nowadays.

oncewas 4y ago
Yes there are several third party package managers, which is a pretty good smell that the situation is sticky at best. Out of the three my favorite is NuGET. Unfortunately the ecosystem last I checked anyway was weaker than say rusts' or go's(at the risk of comparing apples to oranges). Python also has multiple package managers, and the worst part of python when used appropriately is it's package managers and logical layout... Most modern programming languages have one package manager dedicated to the language, and for good reason imo. Part of the problem is, the c++ culture is kind of like the c culture, most people would rather write their own packages from scratch then leverage a community. I don't blame the languages, they were around before git was common. I feel like I am bashing c++... I don't mean too, it's a great language and it does have good packages(some I prefer over what is available in say Rust), but most projects I've seen not using visual c++ do the 1990s thing and don't use these tools. Maybe it's their age, never looked hard at "why", being honest.
- pjmlp 4y ago
  Surely it is weaker if we are counting npm like quantity of packages. If on the other hand we are counting quality packages, all major ones are available.