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This is incorrect. Mosquitoes do not kill anyone, but rather the pathogens they carry. They are just the vector. If I have Covid-19, I pass it to you, and you

This is incorrect. Mosquitoes do not kill anyone, but rather the pathogens they carry. They are just the vector. If I have Covid-19, I pass it to you, and you die, does it mean I killed you?

moron4hire 4y ago
This is the sort of technically correct that functionally doesn't help anyone, like arguing "guns don't kill people, bullets do". If you intentionally broke quarantine, knowing you were sick, knowing you could get other people such, yes, you killed that person. That is not controversial.
- jhugo 4y ago
  > If you intentionally broke quarantine, knowing you were sick, knowing you could get other people such, yes, you killed that person. That is not controversial. Do you feel that way for all communicable diseases or only for Covid?
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  - jeromegv 4y ago
    If you have AIDS, hide it from your partners, don’t use protection and happen to get someone infected… I think we can both agree this isn’t some Covid slippery slope.
    - jhugo 4y ago
      That's a wildly extreme example to compare going outside with Covid to. Given that you are incredibly unlikely to kill someone by going out when you have Covid, this is more like going to work when you have a minor respiratory infection, which many people do, and are even sometimes tacitly encouraged to do so by their employers. As a society we haven't typically referred to those people as killers, even though there is a small risk that, for example, they have influenza, pass it on to someone who is vulnerable, and that person dies. It is clearly inconsistent to treat that situation differently to someone who goes out while they have Covid.
      - jhugo 4y ago
        I'm not surprised by the downvotes, but if you can manage to form a counterpoint more sophisticated than clicking "down", please do!
      - modo_mario 4y ago
        Honestly we'd probably be a lot better of if we handled lesser diseases with some more selfimposed responsibility and societal scorn. At least the way much of east asia started operating following sars and bird flu. (wearing masks if they suspected they or people around them were ill even without a new pandemic around well before corona) Not because we should be scared of the risk of dying or infecting someone else that could die of it (tho that's certainly a good argument for wearing a mask when suspecting you have the flu) but because that person could infect another few, and they another few and oh woops flu season with 3-5 billion in economic damage in the US alone from a single shitty disease let alone others.
        jhugo 4y ago
        Countries with habitual mask usage have flu seasons just like the rest. Has it ever been studied whether it has a measurable impact at population scale? I'm skeptical.
- robonerd 4y ago
  > If you intentionally [...] knowing [...] knowing This hardly seems relevant to mosquitos.
dijit 4y ago
> If I have Covid-19, I pass it to you, and you die, does it mean I killed you? if you did it intentionally; yes. Relevant/related topic (though about another transmissible disease): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_transmission_of_HIV https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_transmission_of_HIV
- lelanthran 4y ago
  >> If I have Covid-19, I pass it to you, and you die, does it mean I killed you? > > if you did it intentionally; yes. Well, unintentionally killing someone is still "killing", no? We call unintentionally killing someone involuntary manslaughter. We call intentionally killing someone murder.
- varajelle 4y ago
  But mosquitoes don't transmit diseases intentionally, do they?
burke 4y ago
If you’re a different species than I am and COVID-19 is a disease unique in my species to parasitic encounters with your species, then yes.

This is incorrect. Mosquitoes do not kill anyone, but rather the pathogens they carry. They are just the vector. If I have Covid-19, I pass it to you, and you die, does it mean I killed you?

moron4hire 4y ago

This is the sort of technically correct that functionally doesn't help anyone, like arguing "guns don't kill people, bullets do". If you intentionally broke quarantine, knowing you were sick, knowing you could get other people such, yes, you killed that person. That is not controversial.

jhugo 4y ago
> If you intentionally broke quarantine, knowing you were sick, knowing you could get other people such, yes, you killed that person. That is not controversial. Do you feel that way for all communicable diseases or only for Covid?
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- jeromegv 4y ago
  If you have AIDS, hide it from your partners, don’t use protection and happen to get someone infected… I think we can both agree this isn’t some Covid slippery slope.
  - jhugo 4y ago
    That's a wildly extreme example to compare going outside with Covid to. Given that you are incredibly unlikely to kill someone by going out when you have Covid, this is more like going to work when you have a minor respiratory infection, which many people do, and are even sometimes tacitly encouraged to do so by their employers. As a society we haven't typically referred to those people as killers, even though there is a small risk that, for example, they have influenza, pass it on to someone who is vulnerable, and that person dies. It is clearly inconsistent to treat that situation differently to someone who goes out while they have Covid.
    - jhugo 4y ago
      I'm not surprised by the downvotes, but if you can manage to form a counterpoint more sophisticated than clicking "down", please do!
    - modo_mario 4y ago
      Honestly we'd probably be a lot better of if we handled lesser diseases with some more selfimposed responsibility and societal scorn. At least the way much of east asia started operating following sars and bird flu. (wearing masks if they suspected they or people around them were ill even without a new pandemic around well before corona) Not because we should be scared of the risk of dying or infecting someone else that could die of it (tho that's certainly a good argument for wearing a mask when suspecting you have the flu) but because that person could infect another few, and they another few and oh woops flu season with 3-5 billion in economic damage in the US alone from a single shitty disease let alone others.
      - jhugo 4y ago
        Countries with habitual mask usage have flu seasons just like the rest. Has it ever been studied whether it has a measurable impact at population scale? I'm skeptical.
robonerd 4y ago
> If you intentionally [...] knowing [...] knowing This hardly seems relevant to mosquitos.

dijit 4y ago

> If I have Covid-19, I pass it to you, and you die, does it mean I killed you? if you did it intentionally; yes. Relevant/related topic (though about another transmissible disease): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_transmission_of_HIV https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_transmission_of_HIV

lelanthran 4y ago
>> If I have Covid-19, I pass it to you, and you die, does it mean I killed you? > > if you did it intentionally; yes. Well, unintentionally killing someone is still "killing", no? We call unintentionally killing someone involuntary manslaughter. We call intentionally killing someone murder.
varajelle 4y ago
But mosquitoes don't transmit diseases intentionally, do they?

burke 4y ago

If you’re a different species than I am and COVID-19 is a disease unique in my species to parasitic encounters with your species, then yes.