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And people with "eyes" are always talking about the things they "see," always shoving that in the faces of people who claim they don't have to "have visions" to

And people with "eyes" are always talking about the things they "see," always shoving that in the faces of people who claim they don't have to "have visions" to understand the world! You're comparing people who are aware of a problem and trying to raise awareness with people who actively deny it. And claiming harm is being done to the denialists. For what it's worth, there is also a common problem with people who want to impose themselves on others via their righteousness. But that happens across the political spectrum.

alephnan 4y ago
> You're comparing people who are aware of a problem and trying to raise awareness with people who actively deny it. And claiming harm is being done to the denialists. This is circular reasoning. The same can be said by the opposition.
the_third_wave 4y ago
> And people with "eyes" are always talking about the things they "see," That is, in their own terms, Ableism > people who are aware of a problem More 'people who are intent on creating a problem to serve their own needs': Racism is not dead, but it is on life support — kept alive by politicians, race hustlers and people who get a sense of superiority by denouncing others as "racists." [1]. That whole line is a quote from an essay written by Thomas Sowell, conveniently put away as "acting white" [2], having "internalised whiteness" or being "a white voice in a black body". 80 years ago people referred to "der ewige Jude" when talking about their scape goats, it did not end well. History is there to be learned from, not to be repeated if at all possible. > And claiming harm is being done to the denialists Harm is a word out of their own dictionary [3] still waiting for a good definition. It is not generally used by those who oppose "woke" activism other than in jest. > For what it's worth, there is also a common problem with people who want to impose themselves on others via their righteousness. But that happens across the political spectrum. "They are doing it as well" is whataboutery and not the issue at hand here so let's keep it out of the discussion. [1] https://jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell072512.php3#.X30VU5NKh_l https://jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell072512.php3#.X30VU5... [2] https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-acting-white/ https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-acting-white/ [3] https://newdiscourses.com/translations-from-the-wokish/#H https://newdiscourses.com/translations-from-the-wokish/#H

alephnan 4y ago

> You're comparing people who are aware of a problem and trying to raise awareness with people who actively deny it. And claiming harm is being done to the denialists. This is circular reasoning. The same can be said by the opposition.

the_third_wave 4y ago

> And people with "eyes" are always talking about the things they "see," That is, in their own terms, Ableism > people who are aware of a problem More 'people who are intent on creating a problem to serve their own needs': Racism is not dead, but it is on life support — kept alive by politicians, race hustlers and people who get a sense of superiority by denouncing others as "racists." [1]. That whole line is a quote from an essay written by Thomas Sowell, conveniently put away as "acting white" [2], having "internalised whiteness" or being "a white voice in a black body". 80 years ago people referred to "der ewige Jude" when talking about their scape goats, it did not end well. History is there to be learned from, not to be repeated if at all possible. > And claiming harm is being done to the denialists Harm is a word out of their own dictionary [3] still waiting for a good definition. It is not generally used by those who oppose "woke" activism other than in jest. > For what it's worth, there is also a common problem with people who want to impose themselves on others via their righteousness. But that happens across the political spectrum. "They are doing it as well" is whataboutery and not the issue at hand here so let's keep it out of the discussion. [1] https://jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell072512.php3#.X30VU5NKh_l https://jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell072512.php3#.X30VU5... [2] https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-acting-white/ https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-acting-white/ [3] https://newdiscourses.com/translations-from-the-wokish/#H https://newdiscourses.com/translations-from-the-wokish/#H