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And now watch as the school finds some reason to fire him.

by ceeplusplus 4y ago

Bud 4y ago
- jleyank 4y ago
alaricus 4y ago
Tenure will protect him, no?
- KMag 4y ago
  I'm not following these things because I realize I really don't want to spare the time to dig deeply enough down the rabbit hole to find the truth. However, it doesn't seem difficult at present to find a workable pretence for firing most tenured professors. I haven't done any research as to if the Princeton Black Justice League really did engage in harassment of opponents, as former tenured professor Joshua Katz alleges. However, it does seem that Katz's claims that the group harassed opponents is what led Princeton to re-open its investigation into Katz's consensual relationship with a student, for which he had already been disciplined. It's entirely possible Princeton was right to re-open its investigation and right to fire a tenured professor over it, but the timing of the re-opening and firing casts a lot of doubt as to Princeton's motivations, and this doubt over motivations also casts doubt over impartiality of the findings. The problem is virtually none of us are as virtuous as we tell ourselves, and the older we are, the more history there is to use to damn us. "Give me six lines written by the most honest man, and I will find something to hang him." --- Cardinal Richelieu. It's a big problem that Dr. King's extramarital affairs these days would probably be enough for the FBI's COINTELPRO to get him cancelled. It's a big problem any time attacking the messenger's past (or, to a lesser extent their present) is a very easy way to silence the message, and the spirit of our age seems particularly bad in this regard. It also seems that the zeitgeist is particularly vulnerable to criticisms of a group's methods being deliberately twisted to look like criticisms of the group's stated goals.
- mlyle 4y ago
  The training is likely Duke's implementation of training requirements under Title 6 and Title 9 to continue receiving federal funding, and the professor's attendance is almost certainly contractually required.
  - alaricus 4y ago
    then: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31563667 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31563667

And now watch as the school finds some reason to fire him.

Bud 4y ago

jleyank 4y ago

alaricus 4y ago

Tenure will protect him, no?

KMag 4y ago
I'm not following these things because I realize I really don't want to spare the time to dig deeply enough down the rabbit hole to find the truth. However, it doesn't seem difficult at present to find a workable pretence for firing most tenured professors. I haven't done any research as to if the Princeton Black Justice League really did engage in harassment of opponents, as former tenured professor Joshua Katz alleges. However, it does seem that Katz's claims that the group harassed opponents is what led Princeton to re-open its investigation into Katz's consensual relationship with a student, for which he had already been disciplined. It's entirely possible Princeton was right to re-open its investigation and right to fire a tenured professor over it, but the timing of the re-opening and firing casts a lot of doubt as to Princeton's motivations, and this doubt over motivations also casts doubt over impartiality of the findings. The problem is virtually none of us are as virtuous as we tell ourselves, and the older we are, the more history there is to use to damn us. "Give me six lines written by the most honest man, and I will find something to hang him." --- Cardinal Richelieu. It's a big problem that Dr. King's extramarital affairs these days would probably be enough for the FBI's COINTELPRO to get him cancelled. It's a big problem any time attacking the messenger's past (or, to a lesser extent their present) is a very easy way to silence the message, and the spirit of our age seems particularly bad in this regard. It also seems that the zeitgeist is particularly vulnerable to criticisms of a group's methods being deliberately twisted to look like criticisms of the group's stated goals.
mlyle 4y ago
The training is likely Duke's implementation of training requirements under Title 6 and Title 9 to continue receiving federal funding, and the professor's attendance is almost certainly contractually required.
- alaricus 4y ago
  then: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31563667 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31563667