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Why can you swerve out of the way of a car, but you can't jump out of the way? It's EXTREMELY uncommon for cars to Grand-Theft-Auto-style run people down walki

Why can you swerve out of the way of a car, but you can't jump out of the way? It's EXTREMELY uncommon for cars to Grand-Theft-Auto-style run people down walking on the sidewalk. ~80% of pedestrian deaths happen when it's dark. There's about ~19 pedestrians that get killed by cars per day. Only ~4 during day time. You have a higher chance being in a random mass shooting. Worrying about getting killed by a car in broad daylight is silly.

danenania 4y ago
It being all about control is spot on. While it’s possible and maybe even likely that I overrate my own driving ability, I’ve never been in an accident in 20+ years and drive in a paranoid, defensive, assume-everyone-is-crazy style that I feel must push the statistics in my favor quite a bit. So despite statistics I tend to worry more about other things. I also have a hard time with my 3 year old daughter being driven by others unless I’ve seen their driving firsthand. There are people I know who I flat out won’t allow to drive her and it has created some awkward situations. I will also only let her go in an Uber/taxi if there’s no other option.
dieselgate 4y ago
Your numbers and statements seem logical but can you provide any datasets to support? I’m slightly surprised a random mass shooting would be a higher likelihood than something automotive related.
karaterobot 4y ago
I didn't check your pedestrian deaths during the daytime statistics, but ~4 per day would be ~1400 a year. I did check the number of mass shooting victims, and in 2019 (the most recent year for which data is really meaningful) the total was 180 (~.5 a day), of which 71 were deaths (~.2 a day)[1], or about 20x less likely than getting killed by a car during the daytime. That's pedantic, but I just wanted to clarify because mass shootings are also in the news. [1]https://www.statista.com/statistics/811504/mass-shooting-victims-in-the-united-states-by-fatalities-and-injuries/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/811504/mass-shooting-vic...
- onlyrealcuzzo 4y ago
  There's different measures for mass shootings. By some measures (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2022 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_th...) - this year there are ~1.8 per day. So you're about twice as likely to be killed by a car in daylight as a pedestrian as you are to be killed in a mass shooting. Your point stands. I overestimated.
Alan_Dillman 4y ago
The world is bigger than the USA. The chances of getting caught in a mass shooting are lower than you are estimating, and pedestrians are more impacted by automobiles. We have those viruses and diseases too, you know.

danenania 4y ago

It being all about control is spot on. While it’s possible and maybe even likely that I overrate my own driving ability, I’ve never been in an accident in 20+ years and drive in a paranoid, defensive, assume-everyone-is-crazy style that I feel must push the statistics in my favor quite a bit. So despite statistics I tend to worry more about other things. I also have a hard time with my 3 year old daughter being driven by others unless I’ve seen their driving firsthand. There are people I know who I flat out won’t allow to drive her and it has created some awkward situations. I will also only let her go in an Uber/taxi if there’s no other option.

dieselgate 4y ago

Your numbers and statements seem logical but can you provide any datasets to support? I’m slightly surprised a random mass shooting would be a higher likelihood than something automotive related.

karaterobot 4y ago

I didn't check your pedestrian deaths during the daytime statistics, but ~4 per day would be ~1400 a year. I did check the number of mass shooting victims, and in 2019 (the most recent year for which data is really meaningful) the total was 180 (~.5 a day), of which 71 were deaths (~.2 a day)[1], or about 20x less likely than getting killed by a car during the daytime. That's pedantic, but I just wanted to clarify because mass shootings are also in the news. [1]https://www.statista.com/statistics/811504/mass-shooting-victims-in-the-united-states-by-fatalities-and-injuries/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/811504/mass-shooting-vic...

onlyrealcuzzo 4y ago
There's different measures for mass shootings. By some measures (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2022 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_th...) - this year there are ~1.8 per day. So you're about twice as likely to be killed by a car in daylight as a pedestrian as you are to be killed in a mass shooting. Your point stands. I overestimated.

Alan_Dillman 4y ago

The world is bigger than the USA. The chances of getting caught in a mass shooting are lower than you are estimating, and pedestrians are more impacted by automobiles. We have those viruses and diseases too, you know.