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As far as I know most industries other than the software industry uses Windows, Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Photoshop, Illustrator etc and not any of these open so

As far as I know most industries other than the software industry uses Windows, Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Photoshop, Illustrator etc and not any of these open source ones. > IT departments could opt to use any one of the lightweight Linux distros available. Which one? That is the problem and don't get me started on tech support. This screams completely out of touch.

guerrilla 4y ago
> As far as I know most industries other than the software industry uses Windows, Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Photoshop, Illustrator etc and not any of these open source ones. The reason for that could have to do with schools. It could change if schools changed.
bachmeier 4y ago
> As far as I know most industries other than the software industry uses Windows, Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Photoshop, Illustrator etc and not any of these open source ones. There are good arguments on both sides of this issue, but this one (which comes up repeatedly) is not among them. It's absurd to argue that elementary schools should design their curriculum exclusively to train students for the job market.
- colesantiago 4y ago
  Who said this? All I am saying is that when non tech savvy people are working with software there is a high likelihood that they will be using the above software. Even if it is for the job market, I doubt a hiring manager would take a look twice at LibreOffice or even GIMP in a candidate's CV. Unfortunately Microsoft and Adobe or any other proprietary software is an expectation in some industries outside of the software industry.
tigerlily 4y ago
Like imagine if Microsoft just stopped supporting all their products though.
alaricus 4y ago
I think you are the one out of touch. My Boomer parents only need help from me once a year or less with their Ubuntu machines. If they can do it, so can genZ students.
- xigency 4y ago
  The students aren’t at issue, it’s the teachers. Your parents might as well be tech wizards compared to the the most tech illiterate instructor. Not to mention that the sample size is much larger when looking at a school or district compared to one household.
  - alaricus 4y ago
    They can learn. It's not hard.
    - o4b 4y ago
      This is the singular most out of touch comment in the entire thread. The vast majority of them _do not want_ to learn, and "its not hard" is simply false.
      - alaricus 4y ago
        It's really not hard. Again, I bring up my boomer parents. Also, they don't want to learn? Seriously? Since can people get away with not wanting to do their jobs?

guerrilla 4y ago

bachmeier 4y ago

> As far as I know most industries other than the software industry uses Windows, Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Photoshop, Illustrator etc and not any of these open source ones. There are good arguments on both sides of this issue, but this one (which comes up repeatedly) is not among them. It's absurd to argue that elementary schools should design their curriculum exclusively to train students for the job market.

colesantiago 4y ago
Who said this? All I am saying is that when non tech savvy people are working with software there is a high likelihood that they will be using the above software. Even if it is for the job market, I doubt a hiring manager would take a look twice at LibreOffice or even GIMP in a candidate's CV. Unfortunately Microsoft and Adobe or any other proprietary software is an expectation in some industries outside of the software industry.

tigerlily 4y ago

Like imagine if Microsoft just stopped supporting all their products though.

alaricus 4y ago

I think you are the one out of touch. My Boomer parents only need help from me once a year or less with their Ubuntu machines. If they can do it, so can genZ students.

xigency 4y ago
The students aren’t at issue, it’s the teachers. Your parents might as well be tech wizards compared to the the most tech illiterate instructor. Not to mention that the sample size is much larger when looking at a school or district compared to one household.
- alaricus 4y ago
  They can learn. It's not hard.
  - o4b 4y ago
    This is the singular most out of touch comment in the entire thread. The vast majority of them _do not want_ to learn, and "its not hard" is simply false.
    - alaricus 4y ago
      It's really not hard. Again, I bring up my boomer parents. Also, they don't want to learn? Seriously? Since can people get away with not wanting to do their jobs?