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It's not possible. 1/11th of our population in Sweden has an immigrant background and we have a far higher standard of living than most of the planet, including

It's not possible. 1/11th of our population in Sweden has an immigrant background and we have a far higher standard of living than most of the planet, including the US. > The best thing you can do for people in other countries is help them clean up their own countries What do you live in hole or something? They're coming because they cannot survive in their own countries due to war, genocide, famine and other very serious problems that cannot be solved anytime soon. Get real.

usrn 4y ago
The majority of those immigrants are likely from other European countries with similar cultures and backgrounds. If you take in too many immigrants you'll just destabilize Switzerland and then Everywhere has the same problem.
- guerrilla 4y ago
  > The majority of those immigrants are likely from other European countries with similar cultures and backgrounds. Nope. Please stop guessing. Only 35.4% were born in Europe. It's no wonder you come to your terrible conclusions if you just make things up and don't bother to look up trivial facts. > If you take in too many immigrants you'll just destabilize Switzerland This is just racism. > Switzerland Why should anyone listen to your racism when you're confounding Sweden and Switzerland when it's written right in front of your face?
  - usrn 4y ago
    >> If you take in too many immigrants you'll just destabilize Switzerland >This is just racism. It's not in fact, it's well known that if the immigration rate is too high (and this limit gets lower the more incompatible the cultures and people are) in any country you get political instability. >Confounding Sweden and Switzerland Sorry, I'm an American. Everything in Northern/Western Europe that isn't France, Britain, or Germany kind of blends together. It shouldn't matter anyway though right?
    - guerrilla 4y ago
      > It's not in fact, it's well known that if the immigration rate is too high (and this limit gets lower the more incompatible the cultures and people are) in any country you get political instability. It really is because you're missing the part about where we all have massive immigration and don't have "political instability" (quite the opposite really.) Total first and second generation immigrants here are 25%. Every 16th person is a first generation immigrant originating from outside of Europe. We're still number 7 on the Human Development Index in the world (the US is at 18), and within the top 5 for standard of living. Our murder rate is 1.08, while yours is 4.96! What's this magical threshold that we need to pass in order to get the food riots? Where do you get these ideas? You're not going to change your mind even a little after what I'm telling you?
      - usrn 4y ago
        If you're going to compare homicide and demographic statistics in the US then you should remember that: 1/10 black people here are first generation immigrants which is extremely destabilizing to their communities. Remember that these communities account for the majority of homicides here (according to the federal government.) While 75% (really closer to 85%) of your population is native or White only ~60-50% of the US is now (depending on how you count.)
        guerrilla 4y ago
        So you're not going to answer any of my questions and drag up more debunked racist talking points? Poor people commit murder. Black people in America are poor (because history but also because America is still extremely racist and won't lift a finger to make up for that history.) > 1/10 black people here are first generation immigrants which is extremely destabilizing to their communities You're not thinking this through. 1/3 of our non-European immigrants are first generation, so your racist theory would predict that we would have an even higher murder rate than you have. Actually, only 2.8% of your population is native.
        usrn 4y ago

usrn 4y ago

The majority of those immigrants are likely from other European countries with similar cultures and backgrounds. If you take in too many immigrants you'll just destabilize Switzerland and then Everywhere has the same problem.

guerrilla 4y ago
> The majority of those immigrants are likely from other European countries with similar cultures and backgrounds. Nope. Please stop guessing. Only 35.4% were born in Europe. It's no wonder you come to your terrible conclusions if you just make things up and don't bother to look up trivial facts. > If you take in too many immigrants you'll just destabilize Switzerland This is just racism. > Switzerland Why should anyone listen to your racism when you're confounding Sweden and Switzerland when it's written right in front of your face?
- usrn 4y ago
  >> If you take in too many immigrants you'll just destabilize Switzerland >This is just racism. It's not in fact, it's well known that if the immigration rate is too high (and this limit gets lower the more incompatible the cultures and people are) in any country you get political instability. >Confounding Sweden and Switzerland Sorry, I'm an American. Everything in Northern/Western Europe that isn't France, Britain, or Germany kind of blends together. It shouldn't matter anyway though right?
  - guerrilla 4y ago
    > It's not in fact, it's well known that if the immigration rate is too high (and this limit gets lower the more incompatible the cultures and people are) in any country you get political instability. It really is because you're missing the part about where we all have massive immigration and don't have "political instability" (quite the opposite really.) Total first and second generation immigrants here are 25%. Every 16th person is a first generation immigrant originating from outside of Europe. We're still number 7 on the Human Development Index in the world (the US is at 18), and within the top 5 for standard of living. Our murder rate is 1.08, while yours is 4.96! What's this magical threshold that we need to pass in order to get the food riots? Where do you get these ideas? You're not going to change your mind even a little after what I'm telling you?
    - usrn 4y ago
      If you're going to compare homicide and demographic statistics in the US then you should remember that: 1/10 black people here are first generation immigrants which is extremely destabilizing to their communities. Remember that these communities account for the majority of homicides here (according to the federal government.) While 75% (really closer to 85%) of your population is native or White only ~60-50% of the US is now (depending on how you count.)
      - guerrilla 4y ago
        So you're not going to answer any of my questions and drag up more debunked racist talking points? Poor people commit murder. Black people in America are poor (because history but also because America is still extremely racist and won't lift a finger to make up for that history.) > 1/10 black people here are first generation immigrants which is extremely destabilizing to their communities You're not thinking this through. 1/3 of our non-European immigrants are first generation, so your racist theory would predict that we would have an even higher murder rate than you have. Actually, only 2.8% of your population is native.
        usrn 4y ago