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What he actually said: "At DuckDuckGo, we've been rolling out search updates that down-rank sites associated with Russian disinformation." You may note what Mi

What he actually said: "At DuckDuckGo, we've been rolling out search updates that down-rank sites associated with Russian disinformation." You may note what Microsoft had stated earlier [0] "We are removing RT news apps from our Windows app store and further de-ranking these sites’ search results on Bing so that it will only return RT and Sputnik links when a user clearly intends to navigate to those pages." [0] https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2022/02/28/ukraine-russia-digital-war-cyberattacks/ https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2022/02/28/ukraine...

laszlojamf 4y ago
I'm just waiting for the day my flashlight starts deciding what to shine a light on based on my perceived intentions
- rapind 4y ago
  I guess that will be the day that you buy a flashlight intended to rank and only light up the top 10 / 20 most relevant things? It's like complaining about water making you wet.
  - laszlojamf 4y ago
    Relevant to the flashlight you mean?
ekianjo 4y ago
down ranking is basically throwing the results down the later pages which is the same as removing results, just doing it in a sneaky way. and rating stuff as disinformation is censorship. i want my search engine to be like the internet, i.e. a conduit for bits, not a self righteous mind that controls what goes thru.
- numeri 4y ago
  But then you open yourself up entirely to being manipulated by the website owners. The Russian government has enough resources to artificially push their SEO way higher than it should be, and it's objectively lower quality information. There isn't really a neutral option (no "conduit for bits") – you either let low quality, high resource sites flood your search results, or you try to filter for quality. Here, that choice is also aligned with a political choice.
  - ekianjo 4y ago
    > The Russian government has enough resources to artificially push their SEO way higher than it should be, country with low tier GDP has supposedly more resources to move SEO than the first or second tech powerhouse in the world? Hum. I smell bullshit here. If I take your argument as valid I should worry about Spain next.

laszlojamf 4y ago

I'm just waiting for the day my flashlight starts deciding what to shine a light on based on my perceived intentions

rapind 4y ago
I guess that will be the day that you buy a flashlight intended to rank and only light up the top 10 / 20 most relevant things? It's like complaining about water making you wet.
- laszlojamf 4y ago
  Relevant to the flashlight you mean?

ekianjo 4y ago

down ranking is basically throwing the results down the later pages which is the same as removing results, just doing it in a sneaky way. and rating stuff as disinformation is censorship. i want my search engine to be like the internet, i.e. a conduit for bits, not a self righteous mind that controls what goes thru.

numeri 4y ago
But then you open yourself up entirely to being manipulated by the website owners. The Russian government has enough resources to artificially push their SEO way higher than it should be, and it's objectively lower quality information. There isn't really a neutral option (no "conduit for bits") – you either let low quality, high resource sites flood your search results, or you try to filter for quality. Here, that choice is also aligned with a political choice.
- ekianjo 4y ago
  > The Russian government has enough resources to artificially push their SEO way higher than it should be, country with low tier GDP has supposedly more resources to move SEO than the first or second tech powerhouse in the world? Hum. I smell bullshit here. If I take your argument as valid I should worry about Spain next.