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There seems enough competitors when this looks like a tool from 20 years ago with limited functionality. If you somehow do not use the obvious GUI tools like T

There seems enough competitors when this looks like a tool from 20 years ago with limited functionality. If you somehow do not use the obvious GUI tools like TablePlus, Postico or SequelAce but prefer web based, there are some that actually look modern. https://www.getmotoradmin.com/ https://www.getmotoradmin.com/ https://www.nocodb.com/ https://www.nocodb.com/ For readonly usage, Redash and Metabase are good.

KronisLV 4y ago
> There seems enough competitors when this looks like a tool from 20 years ago with limited functionality. This perhaps misses the point: the beauty of Adminer is that it works as a single PHP file that you can deploy in a shared hosting environment. While the other linked tools are really cool, they have completely different goals: a low-code/no-code approach to working with data, instead of managing a MySQL/MariaDB instance when you don't have access to the DB server, the server refuses "remote" connections, you don't have SSH access for tunneling or want to do management through a web based interface instead of something like DataGrip, MySQL Workbench or even the CLI. Though if someone really liked Motor Admin or NocoDB, there are a lot of great (self-hostable) Airtable alternatives out there as well, some of which are listed here: https://alternativeto.net/software/airtable/?platform=self-hosted https://alternativeto.net/software/airtable/?platform=self-h... I could have sworn that there was another list on GitHub of similar tools as well, in the style of https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted though.
tezar 4y ago
Pretty sure that while both alternatives looks more modern, they targets whole different audience. Adminer is fast, simple and easy to deploy when you need accessing SQL based DB (ok, there is sibling project Adminer Editor for making fast CRUD interfaces defined by php code). Both project you listed is for creating apps over your data without reinventing whole backend. They look cool and are definitely more powerful, but you have to deploy them (try to do that on shared web hosting). Again, whole different use-cases.
wonderbore 4y ago
I think you're missing the point of Adminer even if it's part of the title. The tools you mentioned require Heroku or Docker, definitely not equivalent to "let me ftp this file up to this shared hosting" If I have SSH access to an SQL server, there are even better native applications that can run locally.
rnavi 4y ago
@mekster : thank you for the mention. NocoDB : is a single javascript file. https://github.com/nocodb/nocodb-seed/blob/main/index.js https://github.com/nocodb/nocodb-seed/blob/main/index.js (disclaimer : Founder here)
- djbusby 4y ago
  10 lines ;) It loads Express and the Noco modules.
  - rnavi 4y ago
    A http-server like express is a basic necessity.. edited though :)
    - skrebbel 4y ago
      I can't figure out whether you simply don't understand why a single PHP file makes deploying easy, or whether you're purposefully misinterpreting things in an attempt to push your product.

KronisLV 4y ago

> There seems enough competitors when this looks like a tool from 20 years ago with limited functionality. This perhaps misses the point: the beauty of Adminer is that it works as a single PHP file that you can deploy in a shared hosting environment. While the other linked tools are really cool, they have completely different goals: a low-code/no-code approach to working with data, instead of managing a MySQL/MariaDB instance when you don't have access to the DB server, the server refuses "remote" connections, you don't have SSH access for tunneling or want to do management through a web based interface instead of something like DataGrip, MySQL Workbench or even the CLI. Though if someone really liked Motor Admin or NocoDB, there are a lot of great (self-hostable) Airtable alternatives out there as well, some of which are listed here: https://alternativeto.net/software/airtable/?platform=self-hosted https://alternativeto.net/software/airtable/?platform=self-h... I could have sworn that there was another list on GitHub of similar tools as well, in the style of https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted though.

tezar 4y ago

Pretty sure that while both alternatives looks more modern, they targets whole different audience. Adminer is fast, simple and easy to deploy when you need accessing SQL based DB (ok, there is sibling project Adminer Editor for making fast CRUD interfaces defined by php code). Both project you listed is for creating apps over your data without reinventing whole backend. They look cool and are definitely more powerful, but you have to deploy them (try to do that on shared web hosting). Again, whole different use-cases.

wonderbore 4y ago

I think you're missing the point of Adminer even if it's part of the title. The tools you mentioned require Heroku or Docker, definitely not equivalent to "let me ftp this file up to this shared hosting" If I have SSH access to an SQL server, there are even better native applications that can run locally.

rnavi 4y ago

@mekster : thank you for the mention. NocoDB : is a single javascript file. https://github.com/nocodb/nocodb-seed/blob/main/index.js https://github.com/nocodb/nocodb-seed/blob/main/index.js (disclaimer : Founder here)

djbusby 4y ago
10 lines ;) It loads Express and the Noco modules.
- rnavi 4y ago
  A http-server like express is a basic necessity.. edited though :)
  - skrebbel 4y ago
    I can't figure out whether you simply don't understand why a single PHP file makes deploying easy, or whether you're purposefully misinterpreting things in an attempt to push your product.